Gay MenShould Tan France be weighing in on breastfeeding politics?

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[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 15 insightful - 4 fun15 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Renting a woman body for pregnancy is already super immoral, then you start attacking women for being able to breastfeed, and reach the highest point of misogynistic male oppressor.

[–]reluctant_commenter 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

In the context of people being shamed for using the word "breastfeeding" and being told they should be using "chestfeeding"-- this strikes me as a tone-deaf move.

In an ideal world, all children would have the ideal upbringing with access to the best resources, and (I haven't looked into it extensively, feel free to correct me) it seems like there's a lot of evidence to suggest that breastfeeding is better than formula for babies. I don't think parents should be shamed for not being able to provide that... But, as this article points out, shaming formula feeders like Tan France is not the point of the awareness week or whatever it is:

“Totally agree that there should be no shaming in how we feed our children but that’s not what breastfeeding week is about,” someone else wrote. “It’s about promoting support for new mothers, better quality information and guidance so that breastfeeding isn’t shamed.”

The truly ironic part is that he seems to be shaming the pro-breastfeeding camp. From his response:

France addressed concerns that he was shaming breastfeeding, with the TV personality explaining, according to Insider: "To any of those women who are watching this, I’m not saying breastfeeding is bad. We’re not judging you for breastfeeding. It’s wonderful that you have the luxury and the privilege to be able to feed your baby with your breasts....

"Luxury" and "privilege" are words often used by people on the left to call out for someone being an oppressor. And I observe that as a liberal myself.

I'm not very familiar with this guy (Tan France) beside this but I'm a little curious as to what his motivations are, given his responses.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 14 insightful - 9 fun14 insightful - 8 fun15 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

Boobies are luxury items now. Breastfeeding is white supremacy.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

"Luxury" and "privilege" are words often used by people on the left to call out for someone being an oppressor.

Which is bs.

They are comparing biology differences between the sexes to socioeconomical injustice. This makes no sense!

[–]Femaleisnthateful 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Seriously. Am I 'privileged' that I can take a dump in the toilet instead of using a colostomy bag? Women's bodies are designed for breastfeeding.

It's amazing how quickly the cultural narrative has shifted from "Every mother should breastfeed" to "breastfeeding is a luxury of the privileged". The scary part is how quickly institutions like La Leche League will step in line.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The scary part is how quickly institutions like La Leche League will step in line.

Do you think these institutions care about women? lmao!

They care about money, that's all.

[–]Bright_paintingLoad, lesbian biologist 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

When you look at the chemical structure of breast milk, it will change as the baby grows. At first, it will be a thick, fat milk, full to the brim with nutrients and other things the baby needs to survive their first weeks. You could say that it's a health boost that the mother gives her baby. Later, it will become a thinner milk, that satisfy the baby's hunger. The formulas is a imitation of this late-stage kind of milk, which means that the babies that only get feed formula misses out on the natural health boost.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"We're not judging you for breastfeeding"

Rather seems that you are, though.

Everything about pregnancy, childbirth and post-natal care is brutally taxing on women's bodies and often mental health. Talking about women's experiences (which he knows nothing about) in terms of 'luxury' and 'privilege' only serves to diminish those experiences and the ability of women to advocate for their own needs.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Tan France is a cast member from the reboot of Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, he's an interior decorator.

[–]GayBoner 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

He’s actually the “fashion” expert even though he has the worst fashion of the group.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oops, I should have Googled. I thought I remembered him having a line of throw pillows and such at Target and just assumed he did interior design. My bad.

[–][deleted] 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If he's rich enough to afford surrogacy, then he's rich enough to hire a wet-nurse. Or at least to buy breast milk.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Or at least to buy breast milk.

Depending on where he lives he doesn't even need to do that, as public hospitals receive breast milk donations from women for these specific cases.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique[S] 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Where does a gay man get off lecturing pregnant women on how to be mothers? He seems to believe he's oppressed because women can produce breast milk.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Where does a gay man get off lecturing pregnant women on how to be mothers?

This is your brain on wokeism kids.

If you classify female biologic functions as 'privilege' then you can pull this shit without ant backslash.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Just for clarity- Malcolm Clark, the author of the linked Twitter thread, is a co-founder of the LGB Alliance in the UK.

[–]loveSloaneSuperDuperBi 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

« It’s wonderful that you have the luxury and the privilege to be able to feed your baby with your breasts« 

Breastfeeding kind of sucks, tho

decidedly NOT a luxury or a privilege

[–]usehername 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Can a gay man be an AGP? This isn't that surprising to me, given his reaction to the trans-id female on "Queer Eye".

edit: I'll admit I didn't really read it the first time and assumed that this was about something completely different. Yikes.