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[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Question for those who believe in gender ideology: if my partner and I are both biologically female and we do not believe in gender ideology or that we have gender identities, meaning we accept that we’re female and believe (like most the world) that that alone (nothing more and nothing less) makes us women, what is our relationship? Is it gay/lesbian? Especially if we don’t feel ourselves to be playing the “social role of a woman.” What even is the social role of a woman in a lesbian relationship? Sounds like the inverse of asking who the man is? We know we’re unambiguously biologically female and everyone else can and does easily discern that too, and treats us accordingly.

I guess the threshold question is, under gender ideology, what is each of is considered? Are we cis? Are we non-binary? My partner only buys men’s clothes and doesn’t feel comfortable in clothing from women’s clothing departments. What then?

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This would a good question to put in s/GCdebatesQT also. There are not too many true believers here. Just be aware there can be disingenuous users there who try to talk one around in circles to exhaust energy and waste time.