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[–]usehername 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I remember Movellon saying something about being involved and meeting them regularly, and I think perhaps one or two other mods mentioned it

That's interesting. I didn't know we were affiliated lol

u/SuperGayIsOkay I am also responding to you in this next message:

The pedo thing seems to be based on the fact that he doesn't believe that GNC children grow up to be gay, and that it's weird to look for "signs" of a child's sexuality or think about what orientation a child will have when it grows up. Agreeing with the idea that being GNC as a child is a sign of being an LG adult (no studies on bis, lol) would require me to agree that female children are biologically wired feminine and male children are biologically wired masculine, and that being homosexual somehow inverts that... biologically. I don't know anyone who wasn't obsessively conditioned into being feminine as a girl or vice versa for boys, so I really don't think that "gender" (masculinity and femininity) is biological in any way, especially not in any way that a child would experience. I do think it's a bit weird to worry about the sexuality of kids and what they're gonna be.

I understand that LGB adolescents are being transitioned at a high rate and that is definitely cause for concern, but an adolescent that has undergone or is in the process of puberty actually has a sexual orientation, and we can point that out and show that it's a type of conversion therapy. However, taking a little kid like Jazz Jennings who was transed at 3 years old, put on puberty blockers and hormones and then castrated, and then saying "he was a gay little boy who was transed!" is ridiculous because he never had a sexuality and likely never will. Assuming he was going to be gay because he liked playing dress-up and wanted to be like his big sister is just weird. It is weird and creepy to label silly things that children like as indicators of future sexuality. I'm of the opinion that kids shouldn't be exposed to sexuality (all, not just LGB) at all, as they're too young to process it, and they don't need adults projecting sexual overtones on their style of play and/or dress. I also recognize that parents wanting to transition their kids because they believe that GNC behavior is an indicator of being gay and want to "fix it" is a problem, but I can't get on board with the premise that it's possible to tell the future sexuality of a child just from styles of play and dress; it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

[–]SuperGayIsOkay 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I can't get on board with the premise that it's possible to tell the future sexuality of a child just from styles of play and dress

Literally nobody has made that claim here. Try again.

[–]usehername 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

the possibility that children who would grow up to be LGB

In fact, you're making the claim here that it's possible to tell which children will grow up to be LGB, presumably while they are young enough to not have an orientation/haven't experienced puberty.