LGB ErasureA bi man and a bi woman in a relationship are more gay than a gay relationship.

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[–]grammaroo 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

there seems to be a constant pattern of people appropriating identities in such malicious ways; AGP straight men to women: "we're more women than normal women because we CHOOSE to be women and we can teach them a few things about being women" AGP men to Lesbians: "we're more lesbian than you and can give you a few pointers on what it means to be an ACTUAL lesbian. And bisexuals to gays (i've seen this too): "95% of us have no ability to form an emotional bond or romantic desires for the same sex but we're SO GAY and gayer than you!" and the delusional quote "bi relationships are NOTHING like hetero relationships.... theyre exactly the same because the psychological profile of bi women are 100% similar to that of straight women to the point where they're incompatible with dating the same sex because of their internalized homophobia that they've turned into an identity (hetero romantic).

These people were throwing rocks at gays and lesbians during the pride marches when they happened and expressing outrage and disgust that gays/lesbians wanted marriage equality but suddenly we're the bestest of friends now that after years of sabotage, they failed to prevent a successful community from forming to humanize ourselves to heterosexuals lol.

They'll just as easily be slandering gays/lesbians and do it with glee, forget their "same sex fetish" when global warming finally escalates and turns our political climate very toxic and the heterosexuals run to christianity and become more religious. Again, i dont know why we're "allies" with these people when they require heterosexual approval to even associate with us in the most superficial ways possible. You'll never meet a more homophobic group of people. it's like that bisexual girl who dyed her hair "blue" to feel queer. they dont see human rights/civil rights. they just see the rainbow stickers, alcohol and pride parades.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Yes, these "bisexuals" - bi-straight-auls, because they’re not bi - becoming homophobic again is what I’m expecting to happen. And they will never admit that they were a big part of the reason why support for gay rights will fall. I hate these people so damn much.

[–]usehername 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Unfortunately, there are plenty of legitimate bisexuals in on this. When gram says they:

have no ability to form an emotional bond or romantic desires for the same sex

They are still sexually attracted. Just very homophobic.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I have no time for these people either.

[–]Dromedary 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's weird. I'm 52, lived in cosmopolitan places my whole life, NYC/SF, fairly "on the scene" when I was younger in that I loved dance clubs blah blah.. I have never known an out bisexual man in my life. Probably lots of closeted ones. I know they exist of course but.. if you're a closeted bi guy with a girlfriend, why am I supposed to see you as a peer when we have to go through a fucking ordeal our whole lives that you don't? Coming out to friends and family alone is a harrowing rite of passage for gay people. Especially 30 years ago when I did (they were all lovely thankfully). Oh, and the absolute devastaion of AIDS that wiped out the generation of gay men just older than me, that was my probable fate.. it really is crazy-making to see straight people taking on this "queer"LGBTQI++ identity to be cool, without a second thought. And they scream at gay people for pointing this out. Then there's the issue I've seen spoken of here by lesbian women: falling in love with another woman who goes off with a man is incredibly painful, and I've been in love with aguy with a girlfriend and as a teen that was excruciating. I don't know what else to say except- nothing against bisexuals, but they seem fine. As in, don't worry about them. They take care of themselves really well, which means 90 percent of the time they end uo with an opposite sex partner. So happy for you guys!

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The AIDS crisis was a tragedy, especially in America. And that crisis has played a big role in why the gay community in America is so fucked up. And because America is the dominant western country the gay culture there influences gay cultures in other western countries, especially Ireland. And looking at the state of the modern gay community, I cannot blame bisexual men who have only had opposite sex relationships and hookups, and who have never disclosed their orientations. It’s their business, so it’s up to them whether they come out or not what they do with their bodies anyway, but I can see why these men won’t come out or won’t have sex with other men. What matters though is how a man like that reacts to a gay man or another bisexual man comes out to him. If this man shames the other man for being gay or being openly bisexual, or tries to take advantage of the other man, then he’s a sack of shit. But if the man just listens to the other man and is supportive of the other man, then that’s all he has to do, and that’s good enough for me.

[–]Dromedary 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If this man shames the other man for being gay or being openly bisexual, or tries to take advantage of the other man, then he’s a sack of shit. But if the man just listens to the other man and is supportive of the other man, then that’s all he has to do, and that’s good enough for me.<

Sounds like a scenario from a gay-friendly independent movie and nothing like real life. I actually don't know what you're talking about. Listening and supporting bisexuals because gay men are meant to be their therapists or something? Sounds nice i suppose in fiction. Why do I have to do that?

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, I meant that the bisexual man who’s never had sex with another man being understanding and supportive when another man comes out to him as bisexual or gay.

[–]chandra 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, they seem to think that sex and sexuality are clubs and that the more enthusiastic and inclusive you are the more legitimate you are. So a regular-old gay man is less gay than a straight person who is OMG SO HYPED TO BE PART OF THE QUEER COMMUNITY and lives out all the queer tumblr stereotypes.

[–]usehername 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

the psychological profile of bi women are 100% similar to that of straight women

Not 100%, but it's pretty huge. Most bi people are not out and simply go by "straight".

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

the psychological profile of bi women are 100% similar to that of straight women

Not quite. Mildly bisexual women have different psychological functioning, e.g. higher in dark triad. They also have more casual attitudes towards sex.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40806-017-0111-y