LGB ErasureA bi man and a bi woman in a relationship are more gay than a gay relationship.

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[–]Q-Continuum-kin 38 insightful - 6 fun38 insightful - 5 fun39 insightful - 6 fun -  (27 children)

Who wants to bet that neither of them is even bisexual but want it as a label for woke cred?

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 27 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 0 fun28 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

I heard on Twitter years ago (roughly 2013?) thar 75% of women who said they were bisexual were not actually bisexual. So this wouldn’t surprise me at all.

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 28 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 0 fun29 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Totally. As a lesbian, I've learned this the hard way. I don't trust women. They're capable of doing lots of things only for attention or ego boosting.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 5 insightful - 8 fun5 insightful - 7 fun6 insightful - 8 fun -  (16 children)

Lesbianism is path right to misogyny

[–]usehername 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Please elaborate.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 16 insightful - 8 fun16 insightful - 7 fun17 insightful - 8 fun -  (14 children)

Being a lesbian will make you see many women complicated, egocentrict, demanding shitty attitude in sexual matters, and realize lots of things men say about women are true, there is more chances of getting into misogyny and general mistrust of female sex, that wouldn't happen if you were hetero. I mean, I love women. But I guess, you can empathize with men more, if you're a woman who have to deal with women.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

For me it was the opposite experience, I started to see that women are just like any other human and that all humans are humans, not that we are special or that men are special.

And I started to understand that majority of what is told in society and mostly by men about women - is in most cases just lie and stereotypes, or caused by trauma enforced on them by society.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 9 insightful - 6 fun9 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

There are some women who are incredibly amazing and are worth 10 women put together, like you, for example. But I might be not lucky enough to get them

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

That is also why some gay men are hostile towards men, or at least side with women against men, because they have had bad experiences with men or they know what it’s like to date a man. Being gay does incline you to take a critical look at your own sex.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 12 insightful - 6 fun12 insightful - 5 fun13 insightful - 6 fun -  (5 children)

Then you realize that people in general suck,and what makes good or bad in the end is their character, not sex. It's difficult though, because when I was younger I idealized women as some perfection, well, I idealized the left as perfect too. Then you get old and see the truth

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I suppose it is from where you are coming. You idealized and then met reality.

I am coming from opposite position - I believed in all stereotypical BS, and those stereotypes were beaten into me with economical and physical hits. I thought most women and some men are just worst of the worst, but then learned that most people aren't bad, and that main issue is not people themselves, I found out that even worst people can have reasoning and that many people are making bad things just because they don't know those things are bad - most people wanting to be "good people" and to be "correct and right". As someone said "even kindest people are turning into monsters when fed with misinformation".

So I went from thinking the worst to thinking better about women. While for you it was the opposite.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 9 insightful - 7 fun9 insightful - 6 fun10 insightful - 7 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah, right.You're always so wise. Arousing ;)

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Exactly. Some people are good, some people are bad, some people are weird and most are whatever depending on the circumstances. Sex has nothing to do with it.

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 8 insightful - 10 fun8 insightful - 9 fun9 insightful - 10 fun -  (1 child)

realize lots of things men say about women are true

We've been trying to tell you

/s, obviously

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Eheheh

[–]usehername 6 insightful - 7 fun6 insightful - 6 fun7 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, I agree. Just wanted to see your perspective. Thanks.

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is my experience and I agree with this. However, being more critical of women doesn't mean misogynysm at all.

[–]usehername 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Hmm not surprised. Most actual bis aren't out, they just call themselves gay or straight or switch it up.

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If a bisexual marries a person of the opposite sex at a young age and they stay married until they die in their 80's, then there is no need for this bisexual to come out, because he or she already has a happy and healthy relationship and is not wanting of anything else. Same situation can happen to a bisexual who establishes a same sex relationship at a young age that lasts until one of them dies but they both live long lives.

[–]usehername 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yep, though I think it's important to acknowledge even if one never plans on acting on it (as in, if they're in a long-term relationship).

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I remember something similar. Bisexual men are mostly gay and bisexual women are mostly straight.

Edit: Wasn't intended to sound as biphobic as it came out.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

For this is very obvious reasons too.

Bisexual men are seen as "tainted" or as "gay". Like - "man one time with man == gay and not bi". While women can be how much they want with women and men would still see them as hetero. Hell, even lesbians are seen as "she just not found the right cock yet" women.

While bisexual men are despised by hetero women and by gay men. I saw too many bisexual men who were saying they are straight and afraiding to show their bisexual side - somethimes that was showing as homophobia, like "I am not one of those". Or if they liked men more - they were just doubling down on homosexual relationship and losing all hope to find a woman to date.

I don't know if it is everywhere in the world like this, but in places I have bisexual friends and where I live is like this (it is post-USSR, Japan, Korea and UK). In few cities I lived it was to the extreme, as bisexual man were believed to not exist at all by majority of people (so either straight or gay men, so if bisexual man once kissed a man - he is now gay man and always will be seen as one), while women are believed to be all bisexual but male leaning (so even full lesbian who lived 30 years with women only is seen as "male leaning bisexual").

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To be fair to the "bisexual men being gay" assumption, a lot of gay men realise that they are attracted to men before they realise that they are not attracted to women, so they say they are bisexual because they think they are. This happened to me. Adolescence was a rollercoaster for me because I began showing attractions to the same sex at the age of 14 and it wasn’t until I was 17 when I finally acknowledged that I liked men. But from then on until weeks before my 18th birthday I still told myself I was bisexual because I believed that I could settle down with a woman, or I at least tried to convince myself that I was interested in women as well. A lot of gay men think they’re not gay simply because they are not stereotypical gay men, until they have sex with women or watch lesbian porn and realise that women don’t do anything for them. Bisexual men exist, but I can see why a lot of people think that bisexual men are just gay men in the process of coming out of the closet.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Same for lesbians, most of them just straight and pretending to be lesbians for men ("you are special and changed my mind, I am starting to like men just for you") or to escape from men hitting on them ("I am lesbian, please don't annoy me").

Bisexual women often "bisexual" to please their boyfriend or husband, like in lesbian dating apps (at least years and years ago when I used them) - there is "bisexual couple", where girlfriend having "fun" with other woman and boyfriend pleased by looks of it and then fapping on it or f*cking his girlfriend during it. Often those bisexual women are not bisexual and just doing this because their boyfriend have fetish on this.

At the same time - when anonymous polls are taken, then much less lesbians are answering they are lesbians and saying they are bi or hetero instead, or not answering question at all, but when polls not anonymous - then hetero saying they are bi, and bi saying they are lesbians.

Society is built in a way that women must please men in most cases - either with unpaid labour at home in lower/middle class or with looks in higher class.

So it is not surprising that they are acting like this - because such behaviour is strongly rewarded by society.

Same why it is so many "fake transes" now on the West - but nowhere else. Because being narcissistic bully is being rewarded by society, so more and more people chosing this way. And being LGB is not "cool" on West. Butch lesbians are harassed, but when they saying "I am transman" - they are being love bombed and everyone is good with them instantly.

So all this behaviour is very predictable and understandable.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If a dude has a non-binary girlfriend- or vice versa, they can call themselves bi nowadays.

[–][deleted] 28 insightful - 18 fun28 insightful - 17 fun29 insightful - 18 fun -  (1 child)

Nothing says gay like straight sex.

[–]ThrowMeAway2879 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

I honestly love it, when they try to make claims in that direction. Because then you can call them out for thinking that penis in vagina can ever be gay or lesbian sex. It exposes their argument for the fallacious drivel it is, because everybody - whether they admit it or not - grasps on an instinctual, visceral level that penis in vagina is never and can never be gay sex. Sometimes it helps to bring the discussion back to reality by painting a graphic picture in people's minds.

[–]julesburm1891 23 insightful - 6 fun23 insightful - 5 fun24 insightful - 6 fun -  (11 children)

I’m curious how they’ve arrived at the conclusion that something could be gayer than an actual gay relationship. It’s like stating that something is more sugary than sugar, more diamond-like than diamonds, or more Austrian than actual Austrian people.

[–][deleted] 27 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 0 fun28 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Because they think being gay is a set of personality traits or a fashion style or set of behaviors as opposed to just. A sexual orientation.

[–]julesburm1891 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh, I absolutely agree with you. The whole thing is just infuriating though. Outside of women and LGB people, there’s no group of people in the world you can parody via stereotype and say you’re the same as them. (Or, in this case, that you’re essentially better than they are.) In any other situation, you’d rightfully be told you’re a bigoted jackass, but these idiots get cheered on.

[–]Poppy29252Natal Cat Woman 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

It's all just stereotypes, of course. Maybe they like theater, Lady Gaga, and going to pride together.

I have a "not like other girls" "queer" friend who is just a straight woman who says she's bi on Facebook, goes to pride, and did drag twice. She only dates and desires men, has rainbow tattoos, blue mohawk, etc. If someone saw the two of us they'd say she was the lesbian and not me.

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It’s as if people like your friend see being gay or bisexual as a hobby rather than a possession of a natural characteristic.

[–]kwallio 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I mean this does seem to be how 99% of the nb scene views gay things - as subculture instead of an identity.

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And nb people wonder why a lot of gay people don’t like them.

[–]Poppy29252Natal Cat Woman 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Yup - gay is a funky costume for her.

She's currently interested in performing as a drag queen instead of king. Her friends are all hyping her up because "the point of being LGBTQ+ is the freedom to be who you want."

Want.

Not who you innately are.

Want.

[–]Athelhilda2 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm pretty sure the whole point of being LGBTQ+ is being sexually attracted to the same, opposite, both, or neither sex. I swear to god, if tomorrow morning gay rights were reversed back to how it was in the 1950s, these "queers" would become homophobes overnight.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They're homophobes right now.

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Yes, but they would become honest homophobes.

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God help us.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 13 insightful - 10 fun13 insightful - 9 fun14 insightful - 10 fun -  (13 children)

Does a bi woman fuck a bi man in the ass with a strapon? I wonder

[–]Mermer 9 insightful - 6 fun9 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

I mean I would

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Probably. Though the bi woman and man could only ever do the missionary position and these woke idiots would still call their relationship gay.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

I would if I were a bi woman. Would only sleep with men who like pegging. What can I say, I'm sexually dominant. But with women, I'm not into dildos. Eheheh

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

To each their own. Some men like being pegged, some don’t. We all have our kinks and desires.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 10 insightful - 7 fun10 insightful - 6 fun11 insightful - 7 fun -  (7 children)

You find the men who like being pegged in BSDM circles or bisexual men with bi women. There are hetero men, but they are rare. Even if they like prostate stimulation, they would feeel ashamed to admit it Funnily a dildo works betterto make a man cum than a woman

[–]usehername 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Funnily a dildo works betterto make a man cum than a woman

Lmao this is hilariously true

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Doesn’t surprise me that most men who enjoy being pegged by women are bisexual. Some straight men do it, but they are extremely rare because straight men naturally want to the ones doing the penetration. Kinda like how some gay men are tops, except that 99% of straight men are tops.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Yeah, but also the fact that is considered shameful for a man to be penetrated and very unmanly. Most gay men are versatile, not total top or bottom right?

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Shame is a factor in this, but my guess is that most straight men don’t want to be pegged. I could be wrong, though. I’ve never had this conversation with any straight man, aside from my best friend, who has told me that I never wants to get pegged at all. Every straight man I listen to on YouTube, BitChute or other social media sides who has talked about sex have said that they don’t want to get pegged. But they don’t speak for all men, so I can only make assumptions.

I would assume that most gay men are versatile. Some versatile gay men do have preferences, but they can go either way.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah, most hetero men wouldn't like it. But if there wasn't a stigma, there would be much more men into it. But if a man says to be into it, he's considered gay or something. There is nothing gay in liking prostate stimulation.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Actually few straight men said to me few times as a secret, because I am lesbian and for some reason people are trusting me a lot.

So like at least 3 said they have small anal dildo and enjoying anal stimulation when fapping on porn, but they really strongly hiding it from their wives, because they afraid that anyone will know about it - as then everyone will just call them gay and tainted and they may lose a lot of friends. It is like a big taboo.

[–]usehername 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Depends.

[–]grammaroo 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

there seems to be a constant pattern of people appropriating identities in such malicious ways; AGP straight men to women: "we're more women than normal women because we CHOOSE to be women and we can teach them a few things about being women" AGP men to Lesbians: "we're more lesbian than you and can give you a few pointers on what it means to be an ACTUAL lesbian. And bisexuals to gays (i've seen this too): "95% of us have no ability to form an emotional bond or romantic desires for the same sex but we're SO GAY and gayer than you!" and the delusional quote "bi relationships are NOTHING like hetero relationships.... theyre exactly the same because the psychological profile of bi women are 100% similar to that of straight women to the point where they're incompatible with dating the same sex because of their internalized homophobia that they've turned into an identity (hetero romantic).

These people were throwing rocks at gays and lesbians during the pride marches when they happened and expressing outrage and disgust that gays/lesbians wanted marriage equality but suddenly we're the bestest of friends now that after years of sabotage, they failed to prevent a successful community from forming to humanize ourselves to heterosexuals lol.

They'll just as easily be slandering gays/lesbians and do it with glee, forget their "same sex fetish" when global warming finally escalates and turns our political climate very toxic and the heterosexuals run to christianity and become more religious. Again, i dont know why we're "allies" with these people when they require heterosexual approval to even associate with us in the most superficial ways possible. You'll never meet a more homophobic group of people. it's like that bisexual girl who dyed her hair "blue" to feel queer. they dont see human rights/civil rights. they just see the rainbow stickers, alcohol and pride parades.

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Yes, these "bisexuals" - bi-straight-auls, because they’re not bi - becoming homophobic again is what I’m expecting to happen. And they will never admit that they were a big part of the reason why support for gay rights will fall. I hate these people so damn much.

[–]usehername 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Unfortunately, there are plenty of legitimate bisexuals in on this. When gram says they:

have no ability to form an emotional bond or romantic desires for the same sex

They are still sexually attracted. Just very homophobic.

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I have no time for these people either.

[–]Dromedary 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's weird. I'm 52, lived in cosmopolitan places my whole life, NYC/SF, fairly "on the scene" when I was younger in that I loved dance clubs blah blah.. I have never known an out bisexual man in my life. Probably lots of closeted ones. I know they exist of course but.. if you're a closeted bi guy with a girlfriend, why am I supposed to see you as a peer when we have to go through a fucking ordeal our whole lives that you don't? Coming out to friends and family alone is a harrowing rite of passage for gay people. Especially 30 years ago when I did (they were all lovely thankfully). Oh, and the absolute devastaion of AIDS that wiped out the generation of gay men just older than me, that was my probable fate.. it really is crazy-making to see straight people taking on this "queer"LGBTQI++ identity to be cool, without a second thought. And they scream at gay people for pointing this out. Then there's the issue I've seen spoken of here by lesbian women: falling in love with another woman who goes off with a man is incredibly painful, and I've been in love with aguy with a girlfriend and as a teen that was excruciating. I don't know what else to say except- nothing against bisexuals, but they seem fine. As in, don't worry about them. They take care of themselves really well, which means 90 percent of the time they end uo with an opposite sex partner. So happy for you guys!

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The AIDS crisis was a tragedy, especially in America. And that crisis has played a big role in why the gay community in America is so fucked up. And because America is the dominant western country the gay culture there influences gay cultures in other western countries, especially Ireland. And looking at the state of the modern gay community, I cannot blame bisexual men who have only had opposite sex relationships and hookups, and who have never disclosed their orientations. It’s their business, so it’s up to them whether they come out or not what they do with their bodies anyway, but I can see why these men won’t come out or won’t have sex with other men. What matters though is how a man like that reacts to a gay man or another bisexual man comes out to him. If this man shames the other man for being gay or being openly bisexual, or tries to take advantage of the other man, then he’s a sack of shit. But if the man just listens to the other man and is supportive of the other man, then that’s all he has to do, and that’s good enough for me.

[–]Dromedary 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If this man shames the other man for being gay or being openly bisexual, or tries to take advantage of the other man, then he’s a sack of shit. But if the man just listens to the other man and is supportive of the other man, then that’s all he has to do, and that’s good enough for me.<

Sounds like a scenario from a gay-friendly independent movie and nothing like real life. I actually don't know what you're talking about. Listening and supporting bisexuals because gay men are meant to be their therapists or something? Sounds nice i suppose in fiction. Why do I have to do that?

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No, I meant that the bisexual man who’s never had sex with another man being understanding and supportive when another man comes out to him as bisexual or gay.

[–]chandra 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, they seem to think that sex and sexuality are clubs and that the more enthusiastic and inclusive you are the more legitimate you are. So a regular-old gay man is less gay than a straight person who is OMG SO HYPED TO BE PART OF THE QUEER COMMUNITY and lives out all the queer tumblr stereotypes.

[–]usehername 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

the psychological profile of bi women are 100% similar to that of straight women

Not 100%, but it's pretty huge. Most bi people are not out and simply go by "straight".

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the psychological profile of bi women are 100% similar to that of straight women

Not quite. Mildly bisexual women have different psychological functioning, e.g. higher in dark triad. They also have more casual attitudes towards sex.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40806-017-0111-y

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 11 insightful - 6 fun11 insightful - 5 fun12 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

Just because the people aren't straight doesn't mean the relationship isn't a straight one. If I use all purpose flour in a cake, that doesn't turn it into an all purpose cake.

[–]fuck_reddit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Quid erat demonstrandum

[–]usehername 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My people are out here fucking clowning again so I am once again obligated to speak. "Gay" is not a set of personality traits. It just means homosexual. These are people with heterosexual attraction engaging in heterosexual sex. What they mean by this is probably that they aren't conforming to gender roles, i.e., a relationship where the man does housework and the woman works. The woman being "masculine" by working and also dating a man makes her "gay", while the man acting "feminine" by doing housework and also dating a woman makes him "gay" because a man being feminine is a woman of course, and since he's dating a woman, that's fucking "gay"! These are the mental gymnastics they go through.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Bisexuality, like intersex conditions, have been appropriated to suit queer theory and gender ideology.

[–]insta 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

I'm special too! Pick me! Pick me!

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A relationship can only be bisexual if it’s a threesome or an orgy consisting of at least two members of the same sex and at least one member of the opposite sex. A relationship between two people is either straight or gay, regardless if neither, one or both of the partners or spouses are bisexual. If I were to marry a bisexual man, his bisexuality becomes moot because he’s permanently with another man and nobody else. He may still be attracted to women, but he won't be having sex with them, like how he won’t be having sex with men other than myself. So yeah, that bi woman is only having sex with a man, and her bi boyfriend is only having sex with a woman. Hence, a straight relationship.

Maybe she and her friends were taking the piss? You’d have to be brainless to think that an opposite sex relationship can be gayer than a same sex relationship.

[–]usehername 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Unfortunately, they are just brainless. This doesn't read like satire to me; I know people like this.

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Well, a lot of people who lived in the Middle Ages thought that the earth was flat. There will always be stupid people out there. But a lot of other people in the Middle Ages also knew that the earth was round, so we can at least take comfort that there will always be people with common sense.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Aside from the idiocy of these particular people, maybe the words Gay, Straight, and Bisexual just don't apply for these monogamous Bi relationships. They're either Same-Sex or Opposite-Sex. It's more unwieldy to say, but it's also more accurate and unambiguous, unlike Gay, Straight, or Bi. This is why marriage between 2 men or between 2 women is legally referred to as Same-Sex Marriage and not Gay Marriage(even though this is a very popular term because it's mostly gay people who have them).

There is also WLW or MLM, but these are even more of a mouthful outside of text. Still, even medicine utilizes the shorthand of MSM or WSW. When I think more about it, there are currently no better ways to label a same-sex relationship that has at least one Bi. So everyone just calls it Straight or Gay; It's no wonder we have bi's identifying as something they are not when widespread language like this reinforces it.

So while everyone's arguing about which of these 3 terms is allowed to be used(for most likely straight enbies), people are also missing the point that ALL of these terms are presumptuous and misleading when used in this context. I think only a relationship between gay males or between lesbians should be referred to as a Gay relationship. Others are perhaps Gay-Passing or Straight-Passing. Same-sex should be used when there is at least one Bi. Even calling it a Bi relationship when there 2 bisexuals is not descriptive enough. And ideally, bi's should cooperate to come up with and integrate a catchy synonym for Same-Sex to end this particular form of erasure once and for all.

[–]usehername 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

maybe the words Gay, Straight, and Bisexual just don't apply for these monogamous Bi relationships. They're either Same-Sex or Opposite-Sex

Agree.

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Those are good points you’ve made. We could just call it a male relationship for two men, a female relationship for two women, and a co-ed or a mixed relationship for a man and a woman. That way you won’t have to say same sex relationship or opposite sex relationship which use up more syllables, and you also won’t have to say gay or straight when dealing with a relationship involving one or two bisexuals.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We could just call it a male relationship for two men, a female relationship for two women, and a co-ed or a mixed relationship for a man and a woman.

Those are good and ones I didn't even consider. They're unlikely to filter into the lexicon anytime soon, but I'll try to use them whenever I can when it applies.

[–]dilsencySame-sex community 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Bihets are wild.

[–]Shales123 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

These people are so straight that even the slightest tinge of gay is gayer than gay