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[–]reluctant_commenter 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thank you for posting about this. I think it's important to track all of the different types of backlash we may see. Currently I'm thinking of:

  • backlash directed at T, ignoring LGB-- limiting surgeries for children, limiting public sponsorship of transgender surgeries

  • backlash directed at T, and also blaming LGB-- lumping in all the letters of "LGBTQ" as the same, e.g. curtailing sexual health education for LGB children, alongside the reasonable choice to curtail the teaching of transgender ideology in schools

  • backlash directed at T, and supporting LGB-- mostly spreading awareness so far (by going on public TV, spreading informative pamphlets, etc.). Led by Transgender Trend, Kiera Bell, LGB Fight Back.

It might be worth making a post about how different states (US) and countries fall into these categories. Clearly, some places are on a very different trajectory than others.

[–]BEB[S] 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

IIRC, HRC is collecting some of the "backlash," which, in the US, is mainly against the genderists' outrageous demands.

Mostly the bills being passed by US states are to save women's sports and to stop (mostly gay) kids from being turned into incredibly expensive medical experiments via "transitioning."

This Arizona bill is kind of scary, because it's explicitly hitting LGB too. I can almost guarantee that if the TQ+ hadn't scared the hell out of US parents with the huge push in schools for kids to consider themselves transgender or gender fluid, whatever, LGB would have been accepted and left alone.

[–]BEB[S] 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Across the US, state legislatures controlled by conservatives are beginning to pass laws rejecting aspects of gender ideology. This would be good news for LGB, except that LGB is now conflated with TQ+, so in the case of Arizona, lgbTQ is all rejected.

This Arizona law sounds unreasonable, but it's a direct result of TQ+ hijacking LGB. In some US states (and Canada IIRC), gender ideology is being pushed in sex ed classes, but also in anti-bullying discussions and other classes.

Since it's now lgbTQ cemented together, discussion of LGB is conflated with TQ+ demands and it's all rejected by not just conservatives, but others across the political spectrum who don't want their kids to turn into gender speshuls.

Really way past time to drop TQ+ - here is a perfect example of lgbTQ being harmful to LGB.

[–][deleted] 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I hate that sexual orientation is getting lumped in with the gender identity bullshit in things like this. Gay kids need proper sexual education as well and should just be included in sexual education by default to avoid outing students.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

T aside, I don't know that it's a great idea to have mostly straight school teachers educating the youth about sexual orientation much beyond the very basics and allowing them to read gay authors. If I've learned anything in the past few years, it's that even supportive straight people often just don't get it.