DiscussionDo you agree with gender critical feminism?

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[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm generally amenable to the basics of GC, if not the culture. The main topic I break with GC on is the idea that men and women, beyond their basic reproductive biology and physical capabilities, are the same. I instead see psychological differences: styles of cognition, career interests (not necessarily aptitude!), etc. All sorts of things that I don't think can be adequately explained solely on the basis of a socially-constructed patriarchy or a social reflection of only reproductive and physical-capability dimorphism. I think that's an oversimplification.

You summed this up so beautifully, and I wholly agree. 2nd wave feminism is dehumanizing and reductive. There also, possibly just in the recent past, was a whole subculture associated with it that had prejudices and taboos not necessarily drawn from the belief system itself. They were, to put it mildly, down on bisexuals.

[–]BEB 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was around for the tail end of 2nd Wave feminism, and I would say that it was far from dehumanizing or reductive.

I don't think younger people understand what women were up against. We were not considered deserving of basic human and civil rights. In the US, to this day, women do not have an Equal Rights Amendment.

2nd Wave feminism, as I remember it, was a broad movement composed of women, normal women of all colors, who were fed the fuck up with our oppression. There were radicals, and that's what killed it, but so much of it was women, just average women, in a collective roar.