DiscussionEnd (or at least a slowing down) of the trans trend?

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[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

If I were muslim, being woman would be much more problematic thing. Being woman cannot be hidden like being gay and muslim women are extremely oppressed and discriminated against. Their sexuality is the last of their problem. But surely women are homophobic too, but not near the level of women and not the same violence.

[–]newaccount85 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (9 children)

Gays are more oppressed than women in a patriarchy. You're only trying to advance your own identity's interests and your analysis is wrong. You refuse to own up to it. No, being gay is a thousand times worse in a muslim society. I had no idea you were executed for being born a woman in islamic societies. One thing you need to wrap your head around is this: A traitor is worse than an enemy. There's a common saying in all cultures that perfectly describes this: "if i had one bullet and i had to choose a traitor and an enemy, i will always choose the traitor because you can always defend against enemies but traitors are dangerous" So cut the crap. And being gay cannot be "hidden". Thats just ghetto bullshit reasoning. Everyone knows who the gay kid is. And women highly benefit from patriarchal systems, gays dont. homosexuality is punished far worse in patriarchal societies than being a woman. Again....death penalty. And what happened to your "i cant believe you think heteros want to kill gay people LMFAO!!!!!" comment....and then referring to countries with actual death penalties for gays lol

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Gays in that countries have male privileges and freedom. You can hide your homosexuality, a woman can't hide being a woman, she will legally being oppressed since the day she is born, just for having a pussy. I would just rather being a gay man than a woman in Saudi Arabia or Pakistan, not even comparison.

[–]ColoredTwice 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Had a thread just about it today: https://twitter.com/Iamthisnotthat1/status/1381534827845935106

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Oh, it's you. I adore your posts. They're so cool. You and VioletRemi are pretty similar, two cool ukrainian women.

[–]ColoredTwice 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thank you, I suppose.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Comparing you to an amazing woman I love, that's a big compliment :D

[–]newaccount85 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

i think your comment makes you iredeemable and almost brainwashed by that radical feminist bullshit. You really are closer to female heterosexuals than you are to male homosexuals and i guess that just means i couldnt care any less about your humanity. You make no effort to understand the horrors of homophobia on homosexual men and think it's fun as if theyre all just closeted...when there are very clear signs of male homosexuality since most of them cant hide their femininity. You really are an idiot. And the death penalty. You truly are a stooge who was brainwashed by heterosexual females to think that gay males...are somehow like straight males and are having fun in a patriarchy when most of them commit suicide in it? It's like being a jew in a nazi club. "you can hide being gay!"...yeah, totally invisible.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Oh dude, I totally sympathize with gay men, of course. They got the worst aspects when it comes to sexuality, homosexuality in males is very controversial ebcause is like a man taking a woman role which in a misogynistic society is an high violation, but lesbians in the most homophobic countries have to deal with the slavery of being females, other than hiding their sexuality. Just being effeminate doesn't get you killed. They must to find you literally taking it in the ass to get the death penalty, it's higly unlikely that this will ever happen. Being hidden sucks, but it isn't hard to do. Actually, I've read these places tend to be where homosexuality is the strongest, since there is strong sex segregation and even hetero dudes sleep with men just to have so relief. I do have more in common with women than with gay men, that's just a natural, but if I were in an higly homophobic society, it would be different and my homosexual identity would be more important.

[–]newaccount85 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

your replies are highly similar to what a homophobic muslim would say to justify away minimizing homophobia. you really do think gay males are just straight men lite. Nothing you said even comes close to being accurate. Just last year, there was a group of heterosexual males who found a gay medical student who obviously couldnt "hide" being gay and not just through mannerisms but no girlfriend, no sexist comments towards women. A group of men killed him and smeared the words "he was gay" in his own blood on the medical school building. Thats a normal part of that culture. I've only heard muslim extremists parrot your views with the "well, you need witnesses so it's ok!" garbage. The murdering of gay males is considered a normal part of their culture where these women are supposedly "oppressed". Theyre nowhere near oppressed as gay people are. And as for your heterosexual women friends in that medical school when interviewed, not once did they mention homophobia. They mentioned how THEY felt unsafe that this happened at their medical school in their country. You've concocted some borderline psychotic fantasy of what it means to be a gay male in homophobic societies. You're removed so far from homophobia by a factor of 10 thousand degrees and go out of your way to diminish it im starting to understand why gay men of the past just dismissed you and never sympathized with you. You are to gay males what heterosexual men are to women when it comes to apathy, "man splaining" but instead, women splaining to gay men something you never experienced. I feel towards you right now as a lesbian would feel about a bisexual pretending to be as oppressed as she is. And no, nothing compares to homophobia in a patriarchy. If it did, gay men wouldnt be trying to escape it to run into womanhood by being some weird transexual looking monster over a gay person any day. I genuinely dont think you belong in the homosexual community now.