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i think the trans people might be right.

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[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 21 insightful - 3 fun21 insightful - 2 fun22 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

The only reason why you seem to hate the focus on women's protection is because you don't benefit from it in any way, as a gay man. Is this correct?

[–]newaccount85[S] 3 insightful - 7 fun3 insightful - 6 fun4 insightful - 7 fun -  (5 children)

you read an entire encyclopedia's worth of explanation as to why transexualism has nothing to do with women and their feigned victimhood yet they center themselves around it. It's not just unnecessary, it's bringing in an ideology that distorts the entire problem and tries to center themselves while exacerbating the problem (which i think they get off on as "victims" and it ends up increasing transexualism in the long run. And the most egregious offenders are usually straight women who push this gender binary stuff. Are you trying to push gays and lesbians into some ridiculous hollywood movie where we go on a giant, wasteful journey onto to find out it was straight women all along who were responsible for this transexualism garbage? Their protection isnt our priority or concern. And theyre not interested in ending transexualism. They benefit from pushing their victimhood narrative thats narcissistic and self serving.

If you feel like our interests diverge, then rename this subreddit to: "hijacking the transexual issue and exploiting it to benefit the protection of straight women through lesbians carrying water for them (as usual) and wasting everyone's time by presenting the problem through the lens of feminism (which transexualism has nothing to do with the patriarchy) and then screwing over the other victims of transexualism (straight men) and seeing straight women as victims even though they threaten to rape gay boys) and make sure heterosexual women dont get blamed for participating and pushing for transexualism through their heterosexual binary system and ideology).

Whats the point of taking such a terrible problem and turning it into a shit show by centering yourself around it? So gay boys dont need protection? Do you seriously think the lesbians are getting protection from "advancing womanhood"? The focus is understanding transexualism and you go out of your way to generate false analysis to serve the interest of "womanhood", which again, it doesnt even benefit you as a lesbian. I dont "hate" the focus. I thoroughly explained to you why it only exacerbates the problem.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 17 insightful - 4 fun17 insightful - 3 fun18 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

I never asked for an 'entire encyclopaedia's worth of explanation', just to be clear.

I never said men don't need protection, nor do I think women need more protection than anyone else, I just think there need to be equal protective measures, which may be different depending on the class of person. For women, it's the freedom from men encroaching on their spaces and taking things from them if they were to identify as women, and the same goes for men being free to have spaces away from women, and not have women larping as men and having places shut down because it doesn't include them.