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i think the trans people might be right.

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[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 28 insightful - 7 fun28 insightful - 6 fun29 insightful - 7 fun -  (8 children)

Nice to see you're still active and blaming women for all your woes, exponent2.

[–]newaccount85[S] 4 insightful - 8 fun4 insightful - 7 fun5 insightful - 8 fun -  (7 children)

Yes, heterosexuals refer to women...not, you know the entire gender binary fused into the bones of every heterosexual male and female. How about we not waste our time accommodating the victimhood of women and pretend this issue is all about them. It distorts everyone's thinking and time. Blaming it on straight men exclusively and trying to sell everyone on the whole "if we only uplift all women, then surely this problem will go away!" scam is not something gays and lesbians can afford to partake in.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 21 insightful - 3 fun21 insightful - 2 fun22 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

The only reason why you seem to hate the focus on women's protection is because you don't benefit from it in any way, as a gay man. Is this correct?

[–]newaccount85[S] 3 insightful - 7 fun3 insightful - 6 fun4 insightful - 7 fun -  (5 children)

you read an entire encyclopedia's worth of explanation as to why transexualism has nothing to do with women and their feigned victimhood yet they center themselves around it. It's not just unnecessary, it's bringing in an ideology that distorts the entire problem and tries to center themselves while exacerbating the problem (which i think they get off on as "victims" and it ends up increasing transexualism in the long run. And the most egregious offenders are usually straight women who push this gender binary stuff. Are you trying to push gays and lesbians into some ridiculous hollywood movie where we go on a giant, wasteful journey onto to find out it was straight women all along who were responsible for this transexualism garbage? Their protection isnt our priority or concern. And theyre not interested in ending transexualism. They benefit from pushing their victimhood narrative thats narcissistic and self serving.

If you feel like our interests diverge, then rename this subreddit to: "hijacking the transexual issue and exploiting it to benefit the protection of straight women through lesbians carrying water for them (as usual) and wasting everyone's time by presenting the problem through the lens of feminism (which transexualism has nothing to do with the patriarchy) and then screwing over the other victims of transexualism (straight men) and seeing straight women as victims even though they threaten to rape gay boys) and make sure heterosexual women dont get blamed for participating and pushing for transexualism through their heterosexual binary system and ideology).

Whats the point of taking such a terrible problem and turning it into a shit show by centering yourself around it? So gay boys dont need protection? Do you seriously think the lesbians are getting protection from "advancing womanhood"? The focus is understanding transexualism and you go out of your way to generate false analysis to serve the interest of "womanhood", which again, it doesnt even benefit you as a lesbian. I dont "hate" the focus. I thoroughly explained to you why it only exacerbates the problem.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 17 insightful - 4 fun17 insightful - 3 fun18 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

I never asked for an 'entire encyclopaedia's worth of explanation', just to be clear.

I never said men don't need protection, nor do I think women need more protection than anyone else, I just think there need to be equal protective measures, which may be different depending on the class of person. For women, it's the freedom from men encroaching on their spaces and taking things from them if they were to identify as women, and the same goes for men being free to have spaces away from women, and not have women larping as men and having places shut down because it doesn't include them.

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 21 insightful - 6 fun21 insightful - 5 fun22 insightful - 6 fun -  (6 children)

Oh god you're banging that drum a lot aren't you?

[–]newaccount85[S] 5 insightful - 8 fun5 insightful - 7 fun6 insightful - 8 fun -  (5 children)

you're a child. I especially like your "oh my gawd! Trans ppl are grrrrrrros! Im a narcissistic woman! hear me whine!" UGH. Tell me again how you manage to center yourself around a gigantic transexual disaster that women are responsible for generating for pushing rigid gender roles on their partners and dating pool and the children they raise and yet somehow blaming it on "the patriarchy"? Do...do you feel called out and can no longer play the victim so it's no longer fun for you? How are things at ovarit? No wonder transexuals run circles around you and make you look like a fool. You basically validate them through your cheap rhetoric and hysteria.

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 17 insightful - 7 fun17 insightful - 6 fun18 insightful - 7 fun -  (4 children)

A reasonable, proportionate response. Well done.

[–]newaccount85[S] 5 insightful - 8 fun5 insightful - 7 fun6 insightful - 8 fun -  (3 children)

...im gay. im not your boyfriend and im not here to indulge your pettiness. You have no ability to give a proper response and you have no idea how to reply to an entire essay on the analysis of heterosexual/bisexual women and their failures that create this transexualism. How's your amazing analysis going at ovarit? Where it's collectively agreed upon that straight men who identify as lesbians are turbo rapists who are violent, and straight women who identify as gay men are....innocent, victimized wonderful people who appear to be lost and confused due to misogyny and absolutely innocent victims who dont fetishize gay people and threaten gay children to dehumanize them and invade gay teenager spaces as full blown "innocent" adults.

You dont want to look in the mirror. And you're causing this. And again, im gay, so enough with the comments that are the equivalent of a "quirky" hair flip like we're in some highschool drama. Act like a normal human being.

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 19 insightful - 5 fun19 insightful - 4 fun20 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

I thought I was the hysterical one?

[–]newaccount85[S] 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

is that another lyrical hair flip? Do you feel sexy doing it when the gay guy just looks at you as a weirdo?

[–]powpowpowpow 12 insightful - 8 fun12 insightful - 7 fun13 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

Are you ok?

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 21 insightful - 6 fun21 insightful - 5 fun22 insightful - 6 fun -  (4 children)

I'm very confused by this post lmao.

[–]newaccount85[S] 3 insightful - 8 fun3 insightful - 7 fun4 insightful - 8 fun -  (3 children)

Gender isnt some "ideology". It's not an idea. As long as "heterosexualism" (binary gender garbage) exists, heterosexuals will have no idea how to experience femininity without associating it with women. Heterosexuals create transexualism and its mostly created within heterosexuals. They MUST go through this transexual phase. it's not their fault. Go online and argue with them. They cant help it. Gender is fused into their bones. Theyre just victims of heterosexual ideology just like we are. We focus too much on centering straight/bi women as victims of this and their problems when theyre a massive part of the problem. These transexuals are not truly perverts. Just build walls and weather the storm. They will keep coming because the very same heterosexuals that hate them are the very same ones that create them.

And ovarit is a joke and a scam. Their entire thing is to center womanhood in every problem even if the issue isnt misogyny. Theyre just looking to politically benefit from a serious problem as always posing as victims while they create the problem in the first place. If godzilla came out of the ocean right now, ovarit would be calling godzilla a misogynist for ruining san francisco. Argue with these people online and get a sense of what theyre saying. Theyre obviously 100% wrong but they dont know any better and they never will because no heterosexual will help them out since they have a religious belief in this gender binary thing.

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 20 insightful - 3 fun20 insightful - 2 fun21 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Lmao, you don't make sense at all.

[–]newaccount85[S] 3 insightful - 7 fun3 insightful - 6 fun4 insightful - 7 fun -  (1 child)

then you dont understand why these people experience dysphoria and you're not qualified to engage with them otherwise they'd make a fool out of you and therefore everyone who opposes them.

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 16 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

OK lmao

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah 20 insightful - 5 fun20 insightful - 4 fun21 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

If the Unabomber was an incel...

[–][deleted] 11 insightful - 5 fun11 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Well reading his background, it could very well be the case.

[–]latuspodSuper Straight 20 insightful - 3 fun20 insightful - 2 fun21 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Pretty sure I've said this to you before, but you need some straight friends dude.

I think people could just as easily point at the flamboyant gay culture, specifically gay men, as the reason behind the trans and non binary craziness. To be fair its a very small percentage of gay men that turned things like gay pride into the weird kink sex fest they are today. But it definitely isn't straight people in the LGBT communities advocating for gender fluid nonsense.

Differenr identify politics isn't going to fix the issue you are having with a specific type of identity politics. Its all the same shit. Keep blaming heterosexuals and bisexuals all you want, keep getting upset that lesbians supposedly abandoned you, but its not going to help you at all.

I agree with you that gender is the issue , and I think it's slowly getting better. I don't know how old you are, but the way you talk about men being scared of being seen as feminine makes me think you're a baby boomer from a conservative part of North America. I'm a millenial and I'd say the vast majority of my friends, 95 percent, are completely fine with doing whatever traditionally feminine thing you think is so troubling to us.

It also seems to me the trans craze is just as much a gay issue as it is a straight one. Affirmation therapy could legitimately be called a form of gay conversion therapy. Homosexuals are more likely to experience gender dysphoria than heterosexuals are, and the current rhetoric is set up to encourage transitioning at that point.

[–]newaccount85[S] 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (4 children)

are you gay or straight.

[–]latuspodSuper Straight 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Straight.

[–]Retardation_station 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

remember how we thought homophobia was infused into the bones of heterosexuals? Well, i still think that holds itself to be true and theyre destroying themselves with this homophobia. No matter how polite, how kind and how "loving" heterosexuals are, their entire being is gendered

Fuck you

[–]newaccount85[S] 2 insightful - 7 fun2 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

why the emotional response and why are you even offended? You people are usually very proud of your homophobia. It's a consequence of your highly gendered identity which you neither want to or will try to escape. And look at your comment history: "hey, im not gay or an ally or anything but i think the drama is fun" lol

And what kind of a monster kicks out their own children for being gay? Into the streets? It's fused into your bones.

[–]lazy-summer-godSuper Gay 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Every single gay and lesbian person i know in real life had serious, almost suicidal levels of dysphoria when we were young and it made our bodies crawl and we all went with our lives until we were 14 understanding "gay man = women inside a male body"

You need to meet me in real life, then. Maybe you will stop doing... whatever this is.

[–]newaccount85[S] 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (2 children)

what am i doing? dyphoria is usually caused by extreme heterosexism. and what im doing is completely fine. Nothing wrong with calling out the lesbians who basically ruined the community and ruined multiple gay charities by trying to hijack them from gay men (mutiple news articles documenting this) and harassed the gay men out only to have the transexuals kick out and harass the lesbians out of those same charities. Why do gay people have to put up with huffy, annoying low iq lesbians who dont really do anything for the homosexual community? They just seem so..... annoying and incompetent. There's just something about them. They have this energy that doesnt work. It's a "im a woman, hear me whine" type of energy. It's just so fucking unbearable. They really think theyre like straight women and it's embarassing. They think theyre exempt from homophobia from straight men when straight men have no problem punching them in their dumbass faces. Their attitude and personality are based on this falsehood that straight men will protect them somehow. Im not sexually attracted to them so i just see them as regular human beings and as regular human beings theyre so....weird.

[–]lazy-summer-godSuper Gay 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

what am i doing?

Yeah, bro, that's my question. I would call it ranting to yourself out loud with your fingers, but hey, you're the one stuck in your mind, so you should know better.

Please, don't make me read that all over again, because first time I did, it felt like I was having a stroke. Lesbians are the most bullied and harassed community out of the entire LGB and you're not doing a very good job at convincing me they're a main villain of this show.

[–]Aspiringcatlady_5 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This has to be a transgender person trying to stir the pot. No true gay/lesbian/ bi person who stands with biological men/ women who goes off like this. AHS trying to cause trouble again