DiscussionDo you think we are seeing the fall of the Reddit?

submitted by Butterlogs✨Superlesbian ✨ from self.LGBDropTheT

Since I became aware of Reddit's blatant eradication of gay and lesbian spaces exclusive of trans people in the name of inclusivity thought that Reddit was too big to touch. However, the recent emergence and swift silence of the super sexuality movement exposed many users to the issue of Reddit admins being trigger happy with the ban hammer. I have a few questions regarding the future of the site following the backlash of hiring someone so closely affiliated with pedophilia and would love to get anyone's opinion:

-Do you think that there will be any serious legal action/repercussions (suppression of speech) against Reddit, or do you think that they will just get a slap on the wrist and try to conduct damage control?

-Do you think that this widespread case of censorship will expose what gay, lesbian, and female subs have been facing for years?

-Do you think that this will hit mainstream media?

-Will this controversy sway public opinion of the T, if so, do you think it will affect the LGB?

-Do you think Reddit is done for after this controversy?

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[–]loveSloaneSuperDuperBi 32 insightful - 3 fun32 insightful - 2 fun33 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

I don’t think Reddit will fall or that this will become a mainstream discussion, but I do think it seems in general, people are getting fed up. Not enough for drastic change yet, but it seems more and more people are peaking lately and discussions are being started that would have been shut down before. Like I’m scared to be hopeful but also feel like we’re at the beginning of the end of all of this insanity

[–]Butterlogs✨Superlesbian ✨[S] 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not enough for drastic change yet, but it seems more and more people are peaking lately and discussions are being started that would have been shut down before.

hopefully things will snow ball from here, but i haven't seen too much of people criticizing the trans community and when I do its from twitter posts that pop up on here

[–]barnarnasis this tv show my friend? 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

  1. No, they'll just argue that Reddit is a private company and is free to silence anyone they want.

  2. Maybe to some reasonable people on the edge of peaking, others will ignore it either because "gross terfs" or straight up homophobia/misogyny (the non-woke kind).

  3. Youtube drama gets written about as if it matters, so maybe? But nowhere that would be taken seriously.

  4. Again, it might peak a small number of reasonable people, but I'm already seeing people treat this as confirmation that we're all gross degenerates.

  5. I don't know. I want to believe this will have an actual impact on the site but this will probably be forgotten once the next scandal comes along.

It's hard not to be pessimistic and I'm totally happy to eat my words later I just don't want to get my hopes up lol

[–]NutterButterFlutterStill waving into the void 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

  • Do you think that there will be any serious legal action/repercussions (suppression of speech) against Reddit, or do you think that they will just get a slap on the wrist and try to conduct damage control?

Slap on the wrist and damage control. They announced recently that they're trying to go public sometime this year, and until they do, they still fall under "private company/platform, not a publisher" technicalities.

  • Do you think that this widespread case of censorship will expose what gay, lesbian, and female subs have been facing for years?

Unfortunately, no. Even now, any user who tries to draw a parallel is being called a transphobe. People aren't willing to listen yet.

  • Do you think that this will hit mainstream media?

Yes. I don't pay much attention to our mockingbird media these days, but a couple names I recognize (other than Glinner, of course) are talking about it:

The Spectator
The Verge
The Daily Dot
GameRevolution

I expect more soon since social media and Twitter are blowing up about it. Even people who have been living under a rock and ask "WTF is Reddit and why do I care" are learning about what's going on. That will attract the attention of bigger and bigger names, and the news articles will follow soon after.

  • Will this controversy sway public opinion of the T, if so, do you think it will affect the LGB?

I do think it might sway some public opinion of T, but not a ton, no. If anything, it reinforces already-held negative opinions, and many of those people have been cancelled already. LGB is hardly even a whisper in anyone's mind at this point. What this really does is sway opinion of Reddit on a massive scale, it's peaking people about what we've all known for years about Admin behavior.

  • Do you think Reddit is done for after this controversy?

Not quite yet, no. I think this will settle down and fade away like other sub blackouts and controversy have until they go public. Once they do, Reddit's days are numbers since it's only a matter of time until they fuck up like this again, and then they'll have nothing to fall back on.

[–]Butterlogs✨Superlesbian ✨[S] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Slap on the wrist and damage control

I can't find the link, but an admin made a post saying that they fired Challenor and they said something along the line of not vetting properly. People in the comments were congratulating and patting reddit on the back for "doing the right thing"

Unfortunately, no. Even now, any user who tries to draw a parallel is being called a transphobe. People aren't willing to listen yet.

I've seen people get downvoted to oblivion for misgendering him. Again, I can't find the link to the post, but someone said that even pedophiles don't deserve to be misgendered. I was actually dumbfounded.

I expect more soon since social media and Twitter are blowing up about it. Even people who have been living under a rock and ask "WTF is Reddit and why do I care" are learning about what's going on. That will attract the attention of bigger and bigger names, and the news articles will follow soon after.

The glory of the Streisand effect. But since Reddit "resolved" the problem already, I doubt the story will go much further. In fact, I could see some diehard twitter dwelling TRA who is misinformed or acting with malicious intent to twist this around to say that Reddit users wanted Challenor gone for transphobic reasons and gloss over the pedophilia.

I do think it might sway some public opinion of T, but not a ton, no. If anything, it reinforces already-held negative opinions, and many of those people have been cancelled already. LGB is hardly even a whisper in anyone's mind at this point. What this really does is sway opinion of Reddit on a massive scale, it's peaking people about what we've all known for years about Admin behavior.

I was afraid that some opportunistic (classical religious) homophobes would use this as justification that all alphabet people are disgusting pedophiles just waiting to prey on children. But when lesbians and gay men started to share their horror stories on the superstraight sub, I knew that it would plant the seed that would lead to a site wide peaking. I just hope the great peakening happens sooner so younger LGB's won't have to experience woke homophobia.

[–]oh_hello_satan 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Don't forget about Bardfinn who famously posts child porn on subreddits he wants banned. Many users in superstraights unfortunately saw a lot of it, and I remember their warnings to not sort posts as 'new'. FYI Bardfinn is a moderator in the subreddit r/AgainstHateSubs that famously got subs like gendercritical and other lesbian subs banned.

I hope this is the downfall of reddit. Aimee's pedophile husband is also a moderator on that site, and I believe he moderates subreddits designed for 'LGBTQWTF' teens. This fucker who is an open pedophile has access to kids! This is a huge fucking scandal and the media seriously needs to pick up on this. I suggest to you all if you have the time to hound media sources with this information. Show them the receipts from kiwifarms (the thread they have on Aimee Challenor) they have archived everything and still continue to do so.

[–]fuckupaddamsBisexual Terve 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No. Not yet.

[–]SailorMoon2020 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

For Reddit to fall, more attention will have to be bought to their child abuse situation they have on the site. For this to fall, people will have to recognize there is a pedophilia problem in the trans community. For Reddit to fall, Serena Williams have to be affected negatively by it.

Reddit is looking to go public and to keep their IPO safe, they have to stay firm on their site being clean from such controversy.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was disappointed that users didn't seem to be connecting the dots between Challenor and transactivism or gender identity ideology as a whole. I kept seeing comments like "she's just one trans admin among many", and I was like "right, and who hired 'her', and gave her unprecedented power and protection?"

Some people pointed out that Aimee wouldn't have gotten hired if he wasn't trans, but they didn't seem to grasp the big picture. Others protested that he's being unfairly targeted by 'TERFS' because he's trans. I think many are just unaware of the larger story of Aimee's involvement in politics and connections to various trans organizations like Mermaids.

I was really hoping this would hit the mainstream media, but it hasn't. Best we can hope for is YouTube. Everyone in the LGBT 'community' is trying hard to bury this.

It is noteworthy that this came on the heels of the 'Super' movement, which gained a lot of traction on Reddit. I don't think there will be any major ideological shift in the short term, though.