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[–]Virginia_Plain 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think a lot of older and/or heavier men are attractive, but I do think it's one of those things where there's a threshold that can be crossed. If someone is extremely obese, I would not find them as attractive. Extremes of any body feature can be a turn off. I wouldn't turn a guy down if he has a septum ring or earrings or tattoos, but extreme body modification is a turn off. Same with muscles, or even thinness; people who are emaciated looking look more "sickly" than "hot" to me.

On the other hand, there are dudes out there that find all of that hot...some guys DO like very obese men, body builders who are just piles upon piles of muscle, etc.

Sadly, I think the idea of "acceptance" in everyday life means "up for anything." Gay/Lesbian/"Queer" people are supposed to be about "acceptance" so any sort of no-gos for sexuality when it comes to appearance are supposed to be worked through and looked past; we must unlearn our toxic, shallow, surface-y obsessions when we are looking for someone to date or hook up with. I think part of it is people who are too immature or damaged to be able to realize that you can not be attracted to someone sexually and still value them, and another part of it is weird "radical politics" posturing. It's anecdotal, but I remember when same-sex marriage was on the cusp of being passed...the radical politics people I knew whos mantra was "LOVE cannot be ILLEGAL/All love is equal love, etc." seemed to turn on the idea of gay marriage with a sourpuss attitude before the ink on the Supreme Court decision even dried. Practically overnight, gay or lesbian people who wanted to get married were unimaginative capitalists who were complicit in oppressive politics.

That does seem to be how a lot of Marx-oriented political movements work....they view certain social developments as necessary evils which must be reached in order to set the stage for other, more advanced stages of revolution. The representatives of that intermediary stage (e.g. landed gentry in classic Marxist theory) must then be just as swiftly pushed out of the way.