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[–][deleted] 23 insightful - 5 fun23 insightful - 4 fun24 insightful - 5 fun -  (6 children)

"There's such a HUGE overlap in the neurodivergent and trans (particularly enby, I feel like, though that part's anecdotal) communities."

They are getting close. They are spelling it out for everyone, but their brain is failing to put it together.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

And that's if they're actually autistic. A ton of people think perfectly normal social awkwardness means they're autistic, and unless they get some kind of official diagnosis (I only got mine in adulthood, unfortunately), they'll go on thinking they're brainspecial and get free woke points.

I do, however, feel terrible for the population of actual autistic individuals who have been dragged into this whole mess (and I really do hate the doctors/teachers/guardians that encourage their autistic charges to transition. I personally had a hard time dealing with my gender nonconformity, as I'd often wear masculine clothing because they were generally less restrictive than female clothing. Had I grown up in this generation, I would have gone online and there's no doubt I'd convince myself that I was a transman, and once an autistic person has made their mind up about something, it's very difficult to change it.

[–]8bitgay 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I do, however, feel terrible for the population of actual autistic individuals who have been dragged into this whole mess

Me too. And I feel this even in this sub, when people start relating autism to being TRA. Maybe someday some study will prove a link. But so far, just because TRAs say on social media they're autistic doesn't mean they really are.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I remeber picking up a book on autism and sexuality, which gave tips on what to do on dates and how to date if you're LGB and autistic (this was years ago), but even then they were implying that autistic people are more likely to be trans or gender non-conforming due to our lack of understanding or indifference to social gender roles and customs.

[–]8bitgay 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

trans or gender non-conforming

These are two wildly different things though. And I'm not criticizing you, obviously, just criticizing the view you mentioned.

Yeah, the indifference towards social gender roles and customs could easily lead into expressing yourself in a way don't conform to society norms. But that is very different from actually identifying as TQ+. If anything, identifying as TQ+ is the opposite: you care so much about social gender roles and customs that you need to put yourself in a different label so that you're allowed to express yourself in another way.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I should've expressed myself a bit better. Autistic people are very likely to be gender non-conforming, but that can quickly develop into a belief that one is trans/non-binary as a result of over-obsession (or if it becomes a 'special interest') and/or outside pressure from peers, online communities and even some parents/teachers/psychologists (who are the worst of the lot because they don't have youthful inexperience to blame their misjudgement on).