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[–]INeedSomeTimeAsexual Ally 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Everything what doesn't please trans people is transphobic.

At this point you stop even reacting to genuine transphobia, which is harassing trans people for being trans.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 12 insightful - 7 fun12 insightful - 6 fun13 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

It's like the boy who cried wolf, but now it's the soft-uwu-front-hole-rawrXD-boy who cried violence

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 17 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Everything is transphobic. Even women who open up their vaginas and let these people in are called transphobic. Women literally married to trans people and enthusiastically gobble girl cock are called transphobic. Even other trans people who have gotten the bottom surgery and have been living as trans for 20+ years are called transphobic.

Unfortunately, people, especially straight people who have very little experience with trans don't really understand this yet. They are still living in the delusion that if they only do X, they won't be called transphobe. If only they do Y, they won't be called transphobe. If only they put pronouns in their profile, they'll be safe. If only they rage against eViL tErFs and denounce JK Rowling, they'll be safe. If only they throw LGB and straight surprised-pikachu trans-wives under the bus and call us transphobes, they'll be safe. If only they allow trans into locker rooms and prisons, they'll be safe.

They don't understand yet that they will never be safe. In trans-world, all that needs to happen is for someone to call you a transphobe, and you are now a transphobe. Your life is over. Goodbye.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The only thing that isn’t transphobic is giving TRAs what they demand. Problem is, it’s hard to know what they want. Either you’re transphobic for not wanting to sleep with them, or your transphobic for sleeping with them because you’re fetishising them. They want you walking on eggshells all the time because then you’re easier for them to control.

[–]BEB 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

There was a really funny list circulating on Twitter last year, or the year before, which listed all the things transgender activists had called "transphobic" - basically, everything is transphobic.

I can't remember which Twitter account the list originated on, but a man in Scotland, who's active in the Scottish independence movement, had it on his account, so it might be on his website:

https://wingsoverscotland.com/

The list of what transgender activists labeled "transphobic" was both hilarious & completely ridiculous.

Once people start to be aware of all this, I think they will reject it, but the big issue is that when the TQ+ goes down, because they've cemented themselves to LGB, LGB will be very unfairly ostracized too. True LGB leaders need to wake up and take action now to drop the TQ+.

[–]oatcake 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

[–]BEB 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Cross - posted the link to s/gendercritical - thank you for digging it up!

[–]8bitgay 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I'm for basic rights to everyone. No one should lose their job or their house for changing their bodies or dressing in a gender non conforming way.

But this discussion turned very quickly into things like "same sex attraction is transphobic". If this is considered transphobic, then whatever.

[–]BEB 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It depends on what the job is: if a transgender identified male is a TSA screener, or in another job where a woman will be forced to allow him to touch her private areas, and if the law prevents the woman from asking for a female screener, that's going to be objectionable to many people.

Same with a female TSA screener being forced to pat down a transgender identified male passenger.

This already happened at a New York area airport in the last year or two - a transgender identified male made a big stink about not wanting a male TSA screener, which would then force a female screener to touch his privates.

And again, LGB will be blamed.

I am old enough to remember when slurs against gays in the US were slurs in general, implying dirtiness, pedophilia, insanity, etc. ,- when women are forced to let male strangers feel them up or not get to fly, I fear those slurs, and worse, like gay-bashing, will be back.

[–]8bitgay 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It depends on what the job is: if a transgender identified male is a TSA screener, or in another job where a woman will be forced to allow him to touch her private areas, and if the law prevents the woman from asking for a female screener, that's going to be objectionable to many people.

I mean, yeah, I was talking about more general situations. And what I meant wasn't even only about TQ+ people. Lots of LGB people are also afraid of losing their jobs because they present themselves in a way that doesn't conform to gender stereotypes.

That's a hard thing about nowadays, you have to account for these specific situations. I remember years ago when people could easily say they support basic rights, while also being against the presence of transwomen in female sports. This wasn't considered controversial or transphobic.

[–]BEB 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don't know if you're in the US, but laws have been passed protecting homosexuals (I often no longer use "gay" because the genderists have made the term meaningless with their claim of transgender lesbians, etc.) in terms of employment.

I think people new to this issue (and I'm not saying that you are!) don't realize how institutions, corporations and governments across the world have already been captured, extremely stealthily, by the gender lobby. By the time most people wake up, it will be too late.

In Argentina, in Canada, in Mexico, in Ireland and other countries, the genderists have won.

And now the Democrats are trying to pass anti-gay, anti-women, pro-TQ+ Equality Act in the US on a federal level (they've passed similar laws already on some local and state levels) - so soon the US will join the Brave New World of Gender Uber Alles.

If you're in the US, call your congresspeople NOW and say I'm gay/bi and I say NO to the Equality Act - or lose your rights. It's that simple.

[–]8bitgay 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

And now the Democrats are trying to pass anti-gay, anti-women, pro-TQ+ Equality Act in the US on a federal level (they've passed similar laws already on some local and state levels)

I'm not American. Could you expand on why the Equality Act (or any other recent acts) is anti-LGB? I tried googling about these acts that the subs has been criticizing, but it's hard to understand since, first, most sources won't care about how anything impacts LGB people anyway, and second, I'm not aware enough of how some American systems might work.

[–]BEB 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The Equality Act changes the legal definition of "sex" to include "gender identity," which has no real definition beyond vague phrases that often rely on sex role stereotypes.

For instance, Facebook offered 50 gender identities in the US and 70 or so gender identities in the UK. The UK's BBC just had a video it was pimping to kids that claimed 100 gender identities. How can we legislate based on gender identity when no one knows what it is, no one can describe it accurately, and so no one knows how many there are?

We pretty much each have our own gender identities. It's called a personality.

To make things worse, some (if not all - I'm not a lawyer so I don't know) of the laws protecting gays in the US are on the basis of sex, once "sex" legally includes the nebulous term "gender identity" who and what are those laws protecting?

Here is a very good site on the Equality Act's impact on women's rights. Some of it applies to gay men too so I would suggest Americans check it out and then take action - Call Congress, say you're LGB and say NO to the Equality Act.

https://usequalityact-women.com/

[–]PeakingPeachEaterfemale♀ | detrans🦎 | eater of peaches 🍑 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Only a transphobe would think transphobia loss it's meaning with their transphobic brain, which is pretty problematic. I guess I'll have to educate you ciscum on the true meaning of having girl dick and boypussy. You need to be inclusive of members of the T---i mean, LGBTQIApplesauce!!! Please validate my manbeard and girldick as a Butch lesbian. I'm dating a nonbinary AFAB with their genderless boypussy so we're a queer couple and that's VALID DAMNIT YOU STUPID TERF TRANSPHOBIC CISHETSCUM SHITBRAIN POOPOO FART!!!!


On a more serious note, yeah. Transphobia is being thrown out left and right and loses it's meaning. Everyone is transphobic, and if I am...so be it I guess. Nothing I do in their eyes won't be anything other than transphobic. I like science and reasoning, not fairy tales and lies.