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[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 26 insightful - 2 fun26 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Bret Weinstein seems to have a sizeable following among conservatives, and he denounced Biden's recent executive order that supports the homophobic gender identity ideology. While I don't think we can assume that everyone who opposes gender identity ideology is supportive of LGB rights, I think this is a good sign because Bret may likely be willing to have open conversations about gender identity ideology.

Many of you have probably seen videos from Benjamin Boyce shared on this sub, particularly his work interviewing detransitioners; Boyce was a student at Evergreen where Weinstein was a professor, when some far-left protests went down (led, in fact, by a "trans lesbian" named Jamil).

edit: Benjamin Boyce interviewing Helena, a former(?) moderator of r/detrans: https://youtu.be/n2HYucdoUuk

[–]julesburm1891 18 insightful - 3 fun18 insightful - 2 fun19 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

I didn’t realize that the leader of the evergreen madness was a transbian. It does make sense though.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

It doesn’t surprise me at all.

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Yup, or at least one of the leaders. I dunno how much you have followed it but I watched some of Benjamin's videos and in the footage, Jamil refers to himself as a "trans black femme"... as in a femme lesbian.

[–]mvmlego 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Hah! I first heard of LGBDropTheT through the comment section of one of Boyce's videos, and I first heard of Boyce through YouTube's recommendation algorithm after watching Matt Christiansen's videos on Evergreen. It's funny how these things all fit together.

On a different note, Bret Weinstein seems like a reasonable enough guy that I'm surprised he was ever onboard with queer theory, let alone a vocal proponent of it.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Bret Weinstein seems like a reasonable enough guy that I'm surprised he was ever onboard with queer theory,

The post title; I think they must have meant the Evergreen college. Not Brett Weinstein, I've watched quite a few of his podcasts, him and queer theory are antithetical.

I've read a bunch of queer theory. There's some good tidbits in there, but it relies on an overreach of social constructionism and its activism ends up being profoundly illiberal.

What did I see on twitter yesterday? "The two groups of people who think homosexuality is a social construct are religious conservatives and queer theorists."

[–]mvmlego 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think they must have meant the Evergreen college

Ah, that makes sense. Thank you.

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh really!! That's awesome!

Wait, maybe that's actually one of the best places to post about our sub-- on these videos we're linking. I've been trying to think of good ways to spread the word on Reddit but maybe this is actually a far better way, seeing as people on Boyce's videos (for example) are far more likely to be interested in our movement than the average Redditor.

[–]Seahorse 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If Republicans could leave gay marriage alone (say what's done is done), then they'd reach a deal with a lot of centrists.

However the religious right wouldn't let that one go. Basically both parties have aspects holding them back but seemingly have a lot of power. (Religious right and liberal feminism/identity politics).

It's a sad state of affairs, I dunno American politics is set up but anyone with an iota of clout and also sensible in the middle policies would shit it in.

[–]insta 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nothing is ever happening to gay marriage. Neocons just pander to the religious right because they are morons who will keep showing up to vote after the establishment gives them nothing but crumbs.

These are the same people that showed up in droves to vote for a porn star fucking adulterer. These people are morons and the establishment right will do nothing like trying to take down gay marriage because that would be political suicide.

[–]insta 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Bret Weinstein seems to have a sizeable following among conservatives

Because conservatives are so desperate for anyone vaguely on the left who just won't dismiss them as racist and move on. It's quite pathetic.