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[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Surprised they haven't been banned for scamming.

Oh wait... if Twitter won't ban pyramid schemes and TRAs begging for free money, they won't delete this either. Seems like people only get Twitter bans for having a wrong opinion.

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

What do you think they are scamming people about?

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Begging for money and proceeding to put it towards nothing but their own pockets & elevating themselves. I guess if they advertised that directly, it wouldn't be a scam, but they claim to be the bringers of some divine justice, yet they sit on their asses and just keyboard warrior. God knows where that "funding" is going - they're as much of a sink as LGBTQ+ organizations.

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I won't criticize your general skepticism of organizations that purport to represent the LGB community-- there is a lot of reason to be skeptical.

However, if you were curious about some stuff they did besides being "keyboard warriors" they summarized their 2020 activities here: https://twitter.com/ALLIANCELGB/status/1344741207918915585

  • Met with local police force to discuss LGB issues (cool for the UK, doesn't do much for us in other countries)

  • Did some Youtube interviews with people about Stonewall to clear up myths spread by trans rights activists. / started a webinar series

  • (doesn't really count) One of their founders, Allison Bailey, is suing Stonewall for discrimination; however, you could credit this to her as an individual, so it doesn't really count as LGB Alliance doing something per se.

You know what, you're actually right, they haven't done very much so far... Mad respect that Allison Bailey is at least suing Stonewall, though, that's a start. I do think that it's super helpful in and of itself that they are there on Twitter starting to raise awareness that LGB people are not necessarily on board with the T; but on the other hand, they actually aren't really doing much.

What would you like to see from such an organization, ideally? There's going to need to be some level of keyboard-warrioring, but there needs to be a lot more substantive action. I am thinking, for example:

  • compiling lists of companies that are very pro-transgender ideology, for boycotting or for calling out at least

  • collecting and sharing data about LGB attitudes on what problems they face and opinions on the transgender community, dating trans people, homophobic experiences (to dispel the TRA myth that "homophobia is dead now, transphobia is the only real issue!")

I struggle to criticize them for not having more in-person events, though. The problem with in-person rallies and stuff, besides the pandemic, is that in the past TRAs have just beaten the shit out of dissenters.

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Met with local police force to discuss LGB issues (cool for the UK, doesn't do much for us in other countries)

What exactly did this achieve, because to my knowledge, being gay is not a crime in the UK nor is turning down trans people.

Did some Youtube interviews with people about Stonewall to clear up myths spread by trans rights activists. / started a webinar series

  1. Anyone can do that

  2. It does not matter. This does not help people, this does not save lives. The world is unstable and many people are struggling, it does not matter who did what at some riot many decades ago - this does not affect people in the here and now. Why on earth would you donate for that cause when you could donate to more active causes like helping the homeless, or victims of abuse?

  3. I fail to see why they need funding for this...?

What would you like to see from such an organization, ideally?

This is a tough question because I don't support the premise of their organization, period. We need less LGB(T) groups not more. In my opinion? Anything LGB(T) should be "disbanded" so people stop viewing homosexuality as a hivemind & an accessory, or a "community." Because it's not. As for an anti-trans organization...? This is something an organization cannot do, especially not a charity.

UNLESS there was a charity dedicated to helping victims of trans child abuse ("trans kids" forced or pressured into it) detransitioners (medical & emotional support) and intersex victims of trans ideology (It's not uncommon for intersex people to be pressured to do something akin to transition to "fix" them or "make them a real man/woman.")

But honestly? I don't think an organization like that would ever get off the ground without being shunned out of existence.