Transing ChildrenFirst mention of the Keira Bell court case in a major liberal U.S. news outlet? - New Yorker article by a transgender-identified person (FtM)

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[–]GConly 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

"If we hold to the premise that transness is an immutable, inborn trait, it follows that every young person who chooses to detransition will undermine the case any other young person may have for seeking trans care. “The main debate has become whether these young people will ‘persevere,’ ” Sadjadi told me by Zoom from Montreal, where she is on the faculty at McGill University’s Department of Social Studies of Medicine. “I think this is the wrong question. Gender changes with age. The gender of a fifty-year-old woman is not the same as of a five-year-old girl. Nothing terrible happens if a person transitions again, which is how I think we should think about it.”

Except the infertility, mutilated body, inability to pass as actual sex.

There's a documentary called "the trans train" with one of these detransitioned twenty something women. Bodies quite irreversibly changed by testosterone, male voices receding hair lines, masculinised faces etc. Probably unlikely to ever have kids thanks to uterine atrophy and cystic ovaries.

It's just heartbreaking.

And this twat says "nothing terrible happens".

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"If we hold to the premise that transness is an immutable, inborn trait, it follows that every young person who chooses to detransition will undermine the case any other young person may have for seeking trans care."

... well, what if we DON'T hold to that premise? Which we most certainly shouldn't, considering its blatant falsehood? Then this DOESN'T follow at all, does it? What half-baked reasoning, even by genderists' pathetic standards! (Also recalls the line from an old joke, "what do you mean "we", paleface?")

And speaking of what follows (or doesn't): exactly what are you saying here, Masha? That young people choosing to detransition are "undermining" others? That their exercising this choice is therefore WRONG? That they perhaps shouldn't be ALLOWED to make this choice? That we should just pretend they really didn't, because, hey, they'll probably change their mind somewhere down the line anyway! Yeah, hear that, detrans? You may THINK that you've broken up with gender-woo, but you can't LIVE without us! You'll be back! You'll see!

Need a theme song, Masha? Here ya go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYr_BdXdpaI