Slurs and Hipocrisy

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[–]BiHorror 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

If we're going by historical context (just as we go about TQ+ using queer), those are insults with ableist origin. Dumb used to refer to those who couldn't speak and/or were deaf due to congenital reasons, stupid is based on stupor, idiot is mental/learning disabilities. It's similar to the f-g (used to mean something else before became a slur towards same sex attraction alongside queer). Fool? As far as I know, that isn't ableist and was used for jesters. Although, let's be honest here, I wouldn't be surprised. You got terms like hysterical/hysteria (which some would consider that sexist for justified reasons).

What I'm talking about is that we (as in the sub) seem to very quick to go after TQ+ and their usage of what could be considered slurs (ex queer, although some would say that has been "reclaimed") when we also allow discriminatory language on here to go free. We compare these people and what they do to those with mental disorders. We also use said mental disorders as insults.

  • short reply: Basically, we're using mental disorders, something people with disabilities have no control over, as negative connotations to describe the behaviors of TQ+.

[–]jjdub7TERF (Trans Exterminating Reactionary Fascist) 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Basically, we're using mental disorders, something people with disabilities have no control over, as negative connotations to describe the behaviors of TQ+.

k, so how would you propose we make the distinction between TRA behavior and other forms of mental illness?

[–]BiHorror 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Why is using disabilities as insults a good thing? It adds problems to my/their community. People already don't take ableism as seriously compared to other forms of discrimination.

The loudmouth of TQ+ are assholes, and ignorant but being an asshole doesn't automatically mean mental disorder. You don't have to reply on others mental illness and using those as an insult.

[–]just_lesbian_things 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You don't have to reply on others mental illness and using those as an insult.

But they're the ones falling back on their mental illness as the cause and excuse for their behavior. According to Alice, everyone needs to pretend Alice is a woman or he will kill himself because of his mental illness. Alice cites modern therapy; which allegedly claims that his brand of mental illness demands everyone keep up this pretense. If that's what the mentally ill and the mental health experts that treat them say, who am I to say otherwise? All I can say is fuck him and fuck his mental illness, I'm not going to compromise my autonomy even if it means he kills himself over his inability to force me to do things.