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[–]refusetoliein a time of universal deceit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It reminds me of when I was prepubescent and decided I should be bisexual so I could maximize my options and be open-minded and stuff. Yeah, that didn't work. I bet some people had similar thoughts as kids before their sexuality matured, except they actually turned out bisexual and instead of recognizing it as a coincidence think it's the result of having a more open-minded outlook.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It reminds me of when I was prepubescent and decided I should be bisexual so I could maximize my options and be open-minded and stuff. Yeah, that didn't work. I bet some people had similar thoughts as kids before their sexuality matured, except they actually turned out bisexual and instead of recognizing it as a coincidence think it's the result of having a more open-minded outlook.

Well, tbf, bisexuality typically isn't even recognized as a sexual orientation at all (or "doesn't exist" in other words)... but, because of the inconvenient people who are attracted to both sexes, it's still gotta be accounted for somehow. What to do? I know: misinterpret as something else! Like "open-mindedness"! Which even the aformentioned inconvenient people may fall for, since we're not magically immune from believing the same crap that everyone else does (especially when it's among the less insulting options-- better this than "confused", "in denial", "phony", "greedy", or "indiscriminate").

So sure, it may sound flattering... but that flattery comes at a high price. Both to us bisexuals, and to you homosexuals. The sooner we're understood as just another plain ol' sexual orientation, the better.

[–]refusetoliein a time of universal deceit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I fail to understand how people fail to grasp that bisexuality as a sexual orientation exists. There is evidence of people who seek out sexual partners of both sexes outside of coercive circumstances such as lack of access to the opposite sex or extreme pressure to suppress homosexual desires. There clearly exist people confused about their sexuality, but they are hardly restricted to bisexuals.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I fail to understand how people fail to grasp that bisexuality as a sexual orientation exists.

Maybe it's just due to the assumption that sexual orientation is, by definition, monosexual. Because, after all... the REST of them are! Can make attraction exclusively to one sex seem like an essential feature.

There is evidence of people who seek out sexual partners of both sexes outside of coercive circumstances such as lack of access to the opposite sex or extreme pressure to suppress homosexual desires.

Sure... but the question is: how does one interpret this evidence? Would that the answer was always: like you! But that's not the case, sadly. All too many explain it with stuff like, "they're just confused/immature/slutty/poseurs/hearts-not-parts". Which all comes down to... REALLY gay or straight. Because, if sexual orientation is inherently monosexual... that's all there is. In other words: bisexuality doesn't exist.

There clearly exist people confused about their sexuality, but they are hardly restricted to bisexuals.

Undoubtedly; however, what with "you don't exist" being the default, we do get a LOT of help in being confused. To the point that it's actually rather hard to avoid. That we've never really had a movement/community of our own exacerbates this; it means that we spend our time in monsosexuals' worlds (either gay or straight), with predictable results.

[–]refusetoliein a time of universal deceit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The main reason I am confused is because the definition of a sexual orientation is the sex(es) to which someone is sexually attracted. If someone exhibits strong evidence of being attracted to both, then by definition bisexuality exists. I can conceive of people being mistaken in the cause(s), or mistaken in the stability of it (for instance believing that no one is bisexual across the lifetime), but the "slutty" myth for instance - do those who endorse it believe that they are getting with both sexes out of desperation and don't truly enjoy sex with either males or females? Because if they do enjoy sex with both sexes, they are by definition bisexual. Unless they think that sluttiness is a cause of bisexuality, but even then it doesn't make sense to conflate them as promiscuity exists outside of bisexuality.

I'm going to stop trying to understand this as it is giving me a headache.