Do trans identified females really "pass" as men after taking hormones and going through the "body masculinization surgery"? Or do these women lie when they say to gay men that they "pass" as men after the "body masculinization procedures"?

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[–]lostinreverieMy ovaries are transphobic 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

reduce the “hourglass” shape that is a defining female characteristic

Defining, hm? Then I guess that means I’m not a woman. Oops, my mistake.

[–]GarageCar[S] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't have a hourglass shape either, doesn't make me less of a woman. "Trans men" and "trans women" are uh, what's the word, deranged?. They think a woman that doesn't have big boobs and an hourglass body like those models do is not a woman, which I think is why they think by cutting their boobs they stop being women. Do they realize making the hourglass shape a defining female characteristic has negative outcomes? So many women have gone on strict diets and developed "eating disorders" just to get close to an "hourglass" shape and when they failed they got depressed and thought they are not "real women"...

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're either born with an hourglass shape or you aren't. It's similar to that thigh gap fad from a few years ago. It really depends on what your body is meant to look like, it can't be forced.

[–]HelloMomo 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I actually find this question mildly interesting. For a different example, on average—all other things being equal—men are usually taller than women, even though there are plenty of counter-examples. This doesn't make being tall a "masculine trait" and it doesn't mean a tall female has "a male height." But there is some connection there, regarding, like... statistical frequency, I guess? I'm not quite sure how to talk about that without being all weird and gender-y, but also without feigning ignorance.