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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Not to sound rude but I'm actually more concerned with porn use over "interacting with gay men", personally. Mostly because I've read up a whole lot on the porn industry and how vile it is. The abuse seems to be mostly focused towards women, yes, but males can be abused in porn too.

Basically unless something is literally amateur solo videos posted on /r/gonewild or something, I'm iffy about it because you don't know how it came to be. But even with those solo porn stuff, there's always a chance it could have been uploaded as "revenge porn."

[–]EverydayIsSad 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Ah, people have their own opinions on these things for sure! Feminists are anti-porn just like you are (you may be a man but men can talk and act like feminists even if according to feminists feminism is something only women can believe in), while I'm not anti-porn. Every job, porn included, is vile to be fair. I learned that fact from anarchists. So unless one is against all jobs because there is a risk of someone being "abused" by their boss and other employees in a company, then highlighting porn industry and acting like sex work is some exception among all other forms of work does not sound logical and is too hypocritical for me to even consider it an "argument".

It's more like anti-porn people are anti-sex, and do not want people to have sex as work, and do not see other forms of work where people are wasting their body and time on as an issue. Eventhough they are all forms of work, and if someone wants to have sex as work instead of spending hours doing paper work, etc, then I see no issue. I believe it is not up to anyone to decide what other people can do for work.

Saying "men and women get abused in porn industry so do not watch porn!" is just like saying "all guns and knives are bad and the usage of such tools should be banned because someone somewhere can abuse these tools and hurt someone else"

I'm not against guns as I'm not against porn.

You have your own opinion! While I hope you understand others have their own opinions. Thank you for reading!

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

...I am not a feminist. What? Being against porn doesn't equal feminism. I'm also pro-gun, so, again, what? Regardless of the definition of feminist, I am not one. I choose not to be, and part of that is because of the whole "all guys are evil and can't be feminists" thing, but also because it's deeply confusing and not relevant to me.

Yes, all jobs can be abusive, but my point is that porn is kind of on a new level. Slaving away at some corporate job, exhausting yourself for hours to earn very little is hellish, yes, but being raped is far worse - and that's usually what porn is. It's also humiliating & victims of it have to live with the videos of their abuse potentially existing forever for people to get off to. You don't get that with regular jobs. The two are simply not comparable.

[–]EverydayIsSad 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I never said you are a feminist? Simply that you act and talk like them. The only anti-porn people I have seen were feminists. And they make the exact same "arguments" you do. Word for word.

That one can be raped and "abused" in the porn industry is not a criticism of porn itself. It is a call for the change of the porn industry, there is no issue with a porn where the men and women are not raped and instead are "exhausting" themselves for hours like everyone does in every job ever because they wish to.

They will have to increase the porn actors' and actresses' salaries, and make sure for them not to be raped and "abused" in the industry. That's the solution, not the banning of porn itself.

That they are recorded is also not an issue when they wish to be recorded. It's like acting. An actor or actress is recorded and their faces are for years to come plastered on books, cds, etc, and people watch them in the movies and films they acted in even when they are long retired.

As long as someone wishes to be in the porn industry, and recorded, then the recording is not an issue.

My argument simply was your "ban all porn and don't watch them because one can be raped and abused in porn" makes no sense just as "ban all guns and don't use guns because one can use guns to hurt others" makes no sense.