I think you just... projected your own feelings onto me by accusing me of projecting. Huh.

Hardly. And I happen to appreciate the diversity of comments and backgrounds here, whether you recognize it as such or not, and yes even yours other than many of your generalizing comments including your comments about gay men being inherently bad people. I also found your comment about men being incapable of love sad, inaccurate, and projecting. But mostly sad that that was your experience. It feels like opposite world for a lesbian to be the one to tell a gay man this, but I was married to a man once and he was the most loving person I know and still one of my dearest friends.

The diversity of comments and backgrounds here has actually made me feel better about being gay, not just being in a comfortable place with myself, but knowing there are others out there who are mindful and critical of gender ideology. You appear to have missed all the posts/comments I’ve made about how reluctant I was to come to accept I’m gay, how long it took, and how it’s still sometimes difficult to accept in large part because I don’t fit into stereotypes or “gay culture,” but also because I was never able to feel pride. I had a difficult upbringing and then cultivated a cozy little life for myself in denial, then gave all that up all that when I came out and noticed all the gender bullshit clown world stuff and didn’t want to be associated with it. I found myself being closeted or acting distant from other gay people, even ones I was already friends with.

But it's not immutable. That belief is inherently unscientific and, once again, makes it seem like you guys think it's some kind of divine given, intentional quality.

I’m atheist so I don’t see it as a result of the divine. I’m also not wedded to “born this way” for everyone and am willing to believe there could be a combo of nature and nurture for some people, but still set very early in life. I’ve heard countless sex researchers say sexual orientation is immutable, so I’d like to see your studies showing it’s not. I think you also have a vested interest in it being mutable, and so you hope it’s the case. Finally, when it comes to people feeling pride or joy in being gay, I see no problem with that. It’s nice not having to be attracted to men, but I feel that way in large part because I’m not attracted to them. Liking that isn’t bad. Nor is making light of it.

how do you explain all the comments on this sub along the lines of "A REAL gay person would never" or "Trans bad, but the LGB would never do such a thing?"

If someone claiming to be gay says something inherently inconsistent with being exclusively same-sex attracted or the idea that anyone is exclusively same-sex attracted, then that is suspect. But it’s also often a TERF in the sheets scenario in the gender ideology context. And there may be outliers but as we discuss on the lesbian side all the time, we are sick of people ascribing political ideology to lesbianism or morality of any kind to any sexual orientation. I’ve also seen people comment from time to time on things they regret about the gay rights movement and those comments are not considered controversial. You’ll probably enjoy my upcoming post about that.