A post on r/me_irlgbt about breaking up with someone when they reveal they are trans. Comments are prime peak material

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[–]8bitgay 41 insightful - 14 fun41 insightful - 13 fun42 insightful - 14 fun -  (5 children)

Person A: Jokes on you, I'm bi

Person B: Please never say that to a trans person ever. I know if someone told me that I would be very upset. We want to be seen as our preferred gender and saying that it's ok because you are bi implies that we will always be out birth gender.

I don't have much to add because the quote kinda speaks for itself.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

So... what is the correct answer here? If it's wrong to stop loving them because you're attracted to gender A and they're now gender B, and it's wrong to keep loving them because you're attracted to both genders A and B, do they want you to suddenly go from straight to gay or vice versa on their account?

Disclaimer: the my use of gender here is meant to represent their definition of gender because that is what the original comment is using, I am pointing out that the comment is inconsistent with their own logic

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 19 insightful - 9 fun19 insightful - 8 fun20 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

So... what is the correct answer here?

As in Wargames, the only winning move is not to play.

[–]8bitgay 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think it's kinda like those gay men that only feel attracted to straight men. They are only interested in those that they can't have.

Similarly, they fetishize LGB but the few bi people who would actually be open to dating them aren't good enough. The appeal might be in converting sexualities.

The difference obviously is that the gay commmunity acknowledges these straight-seeking men exist and often point out the issue with this mentality. Unlike TRAs who will either say "this never happens", or actively defend this kind of mentality.

[–]lazy-summer-godSuper Gay 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So... what is the correct answer here?

The same as always: bend reality by lying. If you're bi and you don't mind dating a trans person, you have to lie that you're attracted only to one sex.

Not being attracted to them is the tricky part. You have to lie that you are into them or lie that you're asexual. For your own mental health, I suggest the latter.

Or just being a reasonable person and picking the "wrong answer" with wide smile.

[–]StellaLecarde 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As a bi woman, this just gave me a stroke

They're not satisfied with anything /ever/, oh my /god/

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 38 insightful - 11 fun38 insightful - 10 fun39 insightful - 11 fun -  (16 children)

My favourites:

But trans people are amazing. They have the guarantee of some funny and sad stories, and they always have a really deep personality. My boyfriend is the most amazing man I've ever met and he's trans. You'll find someone who loves you for you, not who they try to make you.

Literally everyone in the dating pool will have funny or sad stories. Similarly, most people are actually three-dimensional. Shocker.

Fuckem, you're stunning and are brave as fuck for living your reality. End of story.

This but ironically.

I’m not actually transgender (cuz I don’t really feel like questioning it yet) so I can’t relate as much as others here but if someone can’t see you for your true gender, then you’re better off without them as a partner. Just stay strong and you’ll find someone who will see you for you.

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When I came out to my current partner as NB, her response was "I'm pan so all this changes is your pronouns. I love you." I sobbed for like an hour. My last serious partner before that dumped me for being bi so I really thought it would go the way of this comic.

My eyes may never roll back so they face forwards again.

Funny. People like colorful unusual Pokémon. But not colorful unusual humans. :

Caught any cool Pokémon? Oh I found Tramsvee! I had to throw 56897 great balls at it but I finally caught it!!! Look it knows transform! It goes from one gender to another when it evolves!!!!!! It has change attack it can use attacks from both genders ohhhh so exciting!!!!

I have a friend who’s trans. meh. Isn’t that against the Bible or something??

Again, the fuck?

Having a genital preference is perfectly fine. Refusing to date someone just because they are trans alone is not, imo.

So I can refuse to date you because you don't have the right genitals? Cool. Glad we figured that out.

Jesus wept.

[–]8bitgay 27 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 0 fun28 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Fuckem, you're stunning and are brave as fuck for living your reality. End of story.

The funny thing about this is that it applies to you (the trans reader) but not to them (the cis people). They are not stunning and brave for living their reality of not feeling attracted to you. If a gay man doesn't feel attracted to transmen he isn't simply living his reality and end of story, they'll keep dragging the story until it goes their way.

This isn't even just a TRA thing by the way. This is a problem I often have with internet dating advices, because it's based on supporting the reader "you" and criticizing "them", often in conflicting ways. A point I've seen often, for example, is that "you" don't need to date anyone that doesn't fit your standards, but "they" are evil if they reject you for not fitting their standards.

Having a genital preference is perfectly fine. Refusing to date someone just because they are trans alone is not, imo.

I wish they just stopped with this lie of saying genital "preferences" are fine and with the gaslighting of pretending they never try to pressure us. If our "preferences" were really fine for them that thread wouldn't exist.

[–]julesburm1891 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Having a genital preference is fine. Refusing to date someone just because they are trans alone is not, imo.

...in what scenario would a trans person have the genitals of the opposite sex? There’s not a single transwoman out there that came out of his mother’s womb with a vagina. So, you know, I’m just going to keep going with “I’d never date a transwoman.”

[–]LasagnaRossa 19 insightful - 2 fun19 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Having a genital preference is perfectly fine. Refusing to date someone just because they are trans alone is not, imo.

I never understood this logic, it's basically the same thing. If I have a "genital preference" I'm automatically excluding trans people from my dating pool.

[–]julesburm1891 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I suppose some of this mentality stems from the misinformation/willful lie that surgically created genitals are the same as real genitals.

[–]hunther 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's a form of gasslighting. It makes you think you're crazy.

[–]deliciousdogfoodmy name isnt a puppyplay reference i swear 17 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

That fucking pokemon thing holy shit

Furries and gender woowoo bullshit really are part in parcel arent they

That's not even mentioning the fact they use a childrens video game franchise as what I assume they thought to be a deep and meaningful observation

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Also if I recall correctly, no Pokemon changes sex when they evolve. In fact, Pokemon sex is very important to get certain attributes, to allow them to breed, etc.

[–]TurtleChaos 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Pokemon nerd checking in. There is actually one case of a pokemon potentially changing sex when it evolved, but it was a glitch that was eventually rectified. From Bulbapedia-

"Prior to Generation VI, because Azurill's gender ratio does not match that of its evolved forms and its evolution is not dependent on gender, being female 75% of the time while Marill and Azumarill are female-only 50% of the time, one out of three female Azurill evolves into a male Marill (depending on its personality value). Azurill is the only Pokémon to do this. From Generation VI on, Azurill retains its gender upon evolving, despite the gender ratios still differing."

[–]fuck_reddit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Also some Pokemon lack a gender, but they're usually legendary, immortal, telepathic beings or like a magnet with eyes... so... not very applicable...

[–]ChodeSandwichtender and moist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well you know how it goes. Today, gender isn't a big deal, feel free to experiment, it's just like being a Digimon (xenogenders and otherkin are valid!) and it's those awful cis people that take it too seriously. Tomorrow, you have to watch your step and be mindful of gender fee-fees 24/7 because it's serious business and one fuckup can be all it takes to push some poor trans teen into suicide.

I also have a strong feeling that when they say "colorful and interesting people," everyone around them would say "obnoxious tryhard with attachment issues."

[–]deliciousdogfoodmy name isnt a puppyplay reference i swear 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I also have a strong feeling that when they say "colorful and interesting people," everyone around them would say "obnoxious tryhard with attachment issues."

I'm almost certain of it.

[–]fuck_reddit 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

"People like colorful unusual Pokémon. But not colorful unusual humans." Brb gonna stuff a trans person into a 3 in. diameter sphere and make them participate in dog fights.

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

I'd buy a ticket. Good God would I buy a ticket.

[–]cinnaflo 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Except a Pokémon isn’t trying to fuck you, so that was a stupid comparison. Why do they always make wildly different comparisons to two unrelated things like that??

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As somebody further up in the thread mentioned, they're probably actual children who just see the world in terms of things like Pokemon.

[–]reluctant_commenter 18 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Here are the beliefs being pushed by the so-called "LGBTQ+ people" in this thread:

The "LGBTQ+ community" is not for lesbian, gay, or bisexual people. It is for trans people.

I wouldn't feel as bothered if they didn't try to hide their aggressive, boundary-violating beliefs behind LGB people's suffering. I am not your meatshield, or your punching bag.

[–]deliciousdogfoodmy name isnt a puppyplay reference i swear 15 insightful - 7 fun15 insightful - 6 fun16 insightful - 7 fun -  (1 child)

It is impossible to not be attracted to trans people.

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[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh man, I'm aware of a thread where this exact same thing was said by a transbian claiming to have a "lesbian" girlfriend. It was premised on the idea that homosexuality doesn't actually exist because some trans people can be literally "indistinguishable" from their target sex. He said that, therefore, it's not possible for someone to be exclusively same-sex attracted, and that that's bigotry. He clarified that "gender identity," on the other hand, was not questionable and that it's wrong to question someone's stated gender identity. He gave all of these answers but refused to answer the final question asked over and over to him because he knew what a piece of shit it made him look like, and just kept repeating that he already answered it, but also wouldn't clarify or point to where he answered it. Anyway, that question was (paraphrasing) "If someone tells you they are homosexual (i.e. exclusively attracted to the same sex), do you believe them or do you assume they're wrong about their sexual orientation and that you know their sexual orientation better than they do?" So there you have it: (1) gender identity is immaculate and unquestionable, (2) homosexuality is both a choice, bigotry, morally reprehensible, and questionable. Don't believe people when they say they're gay, but you better not question them if they claim they're trans.

[–]julesburm1891 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I am not your meatshield, or your punching bag.

Damn. You nailed it. Meat shield and punching bag are what LGB people are to TQ+.

[–]reluctant_commenter 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks, glad you think so too.

Reminds me of living with a narcissist. Same shit, except gender ideology is an entire movement of it.

[–]chazzstrong 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The most hilarious part of this is that I'm 99.99999% sure none of them are passing, and literally NOBODY would not know their actual gender.
The majority of the 'empathy tales' in the comments are pure mental fiction. These people are so fucking deluded...

[–]PeakingPeachEaterfemale♀ | detrans🦎 | eater of peaches 🍑 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Here's the original comic by Sundae kids before reddit butchered it.