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[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries"[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I get this and I think there is a fine line. I think we should respect people's self-identifications of their sexual orientation unless there is clear evidence otherwise, but I'm also worried about really young kids applying sexual orientation labels to themselves after being taught gender nonsense in schools. Like it seems that kids are using labels based on lifestyle and are being taught that being gay is about being subversive rather than normalizing same-sex attraction as not subversive. For example, the recent Pink News article cheering on a blue-haired 11-year-old lesbian caught vandalizing Trump-supporting houses. First, where did she get the blue hair idea from? That's pretty young to be dying your hair. It's also weird as hell for a "news publication" to be writing about 11-year-old lesbians to me. Second, don't get me started on attention-seeking parents announcing how proud they are to have a gay kid when their kid is a preteen or younger. Like, to me, there's a difference between a child calling themselves these things and for the media to be memorializing that. It's also likely these kids are growing up in a bubble and therefore have been kept from learning about and understanding the consequences of being openly gay.

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Totally fair and great points! I should say I'm not American and this is relevant because in my country things aren't that crazy at all with the gender non sense. I do think parents in particular should be aware of this gender ideology bs and keep an eye open to their teenage daughter or son. But I think that's only parents job. No one else has anything to do with your private life and who you go to bed with.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries"[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I totally agree. I hate the overexposure of public discussion on sexual orientation because it creates the impression that we should be expected to yell about this stuff from the rooftops when sexual and romantic lives should be private and not for public consumption. If we want to normalize homosexuality and bisexuality we should treat them as less common but existing variations on sexual orientation, that yes, can result in unique challenges in one’s personal life, but is not a basis for preferential treatment, at least in places where we have already obtained a certain degree of acceptability. And it’s the places where it’s already acceptable where this happens in the first place. I don’t put my sexual orientation in my employment paperwork but companies do diversity hiring based on it here and it weirds me out because it’s always wealthy, white gay guys from elite schools, who would be hired anyway. In my industry, no affirmative action is needed based on sexual orientation. We’re not underrepresented from what I can tell. It’s just weird, performative, and othering. Ironically lesbians are over-represented in my particular work group.

So is it easy to get a visa into your country, or . . . ?