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[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

when the ones that benefit the most from this shit are the usual suspects (tech industry, big corporations and so on) it's natural for people to be skeptical.

It's not just who benefited. It's the fact that most hospitals were never inundated to levels that were claimed, the death rate is extremely low even with padding from car accidents and deaths unrelated to covid, and people like bill gates saying we need to be in lockdown until the end of 2021 even after all the evidence points to this being not as big a deal as claimed. Per CDC website, the deaths of preventable diseases due to lack of hospital access is now greater than covid deaths.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

From the hospitals I work with and the doctors I personally know that work at those hospitals, yes hospitals were inundated and did not have enough supplies and they had doctors performing procedures without masks as a result. That wasn't propaganda.

[–]julesburm1891 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

My fiancée is an ER nurse. There absolutely was a inundation of patients this spring and a lack of supplies in our region. The ICU at her hospital was filled to capacity and covid patients started filling up ER beds. Instead of distributing proper PPE, the hospital sent them a video of how to reuse N-95 masks and asked nurses to care for covid patients with some of the shittiest cloth masks I’ve seen.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Spring....it's now winter and yet we are still in lockdown.

[–]julesburm1891 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

We might be in different regions then. We were very hard hit at first, but things have evened out. Now, other than having to wear masks in public places, we’re completely reopen.

I don’t want to argue with you about the policies of lockdowns, but I do want to clarify that the hospital’s patient load and treatment of staff was abysmal for some of us.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Same. Where I am now things have mostly reopened just with certain restrictions in place for capacity and distancing.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

In my area hospitals were empty.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

OK and two of us just told you that the hospitals were absolutely inundated where we are, so it wasn't propaganda regardless of your own personal experience. Nor where the hospitals empty where the older people I knew needed to schedule their surgery around the lack of availability. Children's hospitals in my area were begging for supply donations.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yea 8 months ago, in some areas, hospitals had overload. Others never did.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Which is why we’re mostly re-opened where I am and have been this way for months.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well we arent here in my county. 1.5M population, 10k confirmed infections with 131 deaths. Rationally the confirmed cases is on the low enf of actual cases due to asymptomati c carriers so the death rate is even lower than 1.3.%. Now that IS worse than the flu but as I said earlier, prevtable deaths due to lack or hospital access as supercedes covid deaths.