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[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

What are your predictions on what will happen next after the T is dropped?

Absolutely nothing; "Pride" is still an embarrassment, T continue their bullshit by themselves, LGB people continue to also cause problems (and then blame it on the dropped T, as is tradition.) Governments won't care and will probably still support general tone-deaf "tolerance" crap anyway, some might start to phase out trans stuff but honestly, I don't see it happening currently. America, aka the source of transgender nonsense and the country that other countries seem to copy for their "progressive" policies, did not drop trans stuff under Trump/right-wing government so if Biden wins I can see that getting worse, unfortunately. (As much as removing Trump is necessary, let me be clear.)

What other issues will we need to tackle as homosexual people & bisexual people?

There's a lot, but I think most will never be tackled because it's too "taboo."

I think the gay (male) community needs to do something about it's pedophilia & abuse problem, and how normalized it is for gay guys to hurt each other and especially prey on younger/weaker/more feminine guys. I think "gay culture" as a whole is toxic, hookup culture is self destructive and the fact that the "gay community" glorifies unsafe sex, dangerous fetishes and party drugs is beyond concerning. But it will never be addressed because they have convinced people that their "culture" is sacred and questioning it is "homophobic."

I'm concerned about sex ed for children, and how LGB & fetish is apparently being taught to younger and younger kids in Western countries. Personally I am very much against this, but people think that NOT teaching kids about explicit homosexuality is "homophobic." (See Russian sexual media law that prohibits sexual content, including LGBT, being shown to kids, and gets misreported as a "gay propaganda ban." It's not, and it never was, and although Russia's censorship problem is insane and beyond unnecessary, I fully support not teaching explicit sexual content, including homosexuality, to students under 16.)

I would like people to research the cause and possible "cure" for homosexuality. Not all of us are happy and I personally believe I only ended up this way due to trauma and too early exposure to sexual content. I hate the "love is love" virtual signalling narrative, I think everyone has a right to their own body and their own life decisions and that it's hurting NO ONE if some of us want to fully consensually try to change. Those of us who are not happy deserve a chance at a better life, not to be told the same broken record "you are who you are, internalized homophobia honey, learn to love it" shit we've all heard five hundred times.

I think Westerners need to stop treating being LGB like a gift from God/inherently good thing and people need to adopt a more neutral, realistic, non-religious viewpoint. I'm tired of so called "critical thinkers" who reject TRA ideology for being unscientific yet somehow keep preaching the narrative that they were magically made gay by God or "the force of nature" for some divine intentional purpose. I think the glorification of homosexuality is exactly why we have so many "gay trans boys" and "trans lesbians", because people have been taught that being homosexual is quirky and cool.

Pride needs to stop, period. Not only does it contribute to the above, it's also a capitalist cash cow that never helps anyone in need. It's a narcissistic "look at how special I am" party for the privileged and rich. It disregards non-Western people and those who don't view their sexuality as a fun fashion statement. Oh, and all the plastic and shit these parades leave behind is damaging to the environment. It makes me laugh when LGB/T people claim to be "radically anti capitalist" and then directly support the mass production of cheap "pride" patterened merchandise that was probably made by underpaid workers and/or children.

What will become of the LGB group?

Absolutely nothing will change, most likely. It'll still be the obnoxious, privileged people loudest & most heard, LGBT group we already know, just with minus trans. I think there's a chance that LGB organizations (should they become a thing, I seriously hope not) will "radicalize" in the bad way and things will shift less from "Love is love, everyone is valid uwu" to really angry, aggressive, anti-science nonsense a la radfems and such. But generally I think both the LGB and T are getting simultaneously angrier and dumber, and whining more and more about how "oppressed" they are (which almost exclusively comes from the people who have it the easiest)

Do you feel the LGB group will disperse after or stick together?

I HOPE it disperses, but I don't believe it will. Like I said, I think people will see the divide not as a necessary split, but as some kind of angry battle statement. It won't end when the T splits off, LGB will continue bitching about the T and vice versa. I also don't see how it could actually split; T will refuse to do so and LGB can't stop arguing for five minutes to organize any meaningful groups. Whether or not it's LGB or LGBT depends entirely on the media, in the same way that some organizations refer to it as "LGBT+" and some refer to it as "LGBTQQIAAP2S*+". It's not up to us as individuals, it's how the media and the government chooses to handle it. We have no say in it whatsoever. I mean, intersex people have protested the "I" inclusion for years, yet people are still reporting it as "LGBTI" or similar simply because they want to.

Additional thoughts?

World is fucked, call me a pessimist but I don't see it getting any better. It would take a literal miracle to fix something even as niche and minor as LGB(T) issues. But as long as hivemind politics remain and people still get so easily offended, no progress will be made, because it will be deemed "homo/lesbophobic."

[–]les4leshomonormative 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm concerned about sex ed for children, and how LGB & fetish is apparently being taught to younger and younger kids in Western countries.

This, so much. I don't have any opposition to children being taught that homo/bisexuality exists but they should absolutely NOT be pushed into "exploring sexuality" or thinking about who they're attracted to (like on those Mermaids genderbread handouts)

There was an article on Quillette about sex education starting to include S&M and fetish stuff too which is just sickening to think about particularly. Overall there needs to be a pushback against liberal politics pushing these ideas that anything subversive is good

I also can't see us ever dropping the T. Even if normies start pushing back against medical malpractice and manipulative activism, transactivists aren't going anywhere. They want to be oppressed so badly I think they'd honestly be emboldened by the backlash and of course homosexual and bisexual people are going to get caught in it too, so I doubt LGB will disperse either. We've all really made a mess of things (not just liberals and kweers but LGB too)

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

How is removing Trump amd replacing him with someone who is bought by china nesseccary?

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

America needs change. I don't like either of the candidates. I don't support left nor right ideologies. But Trump is just so incompetent that, if I were American, I'd vote for literally anyone else just to give someone else a chance to fuck the country up.

Also being Russian, I know that having the same guy in charge for a long, indefinite period of time never turns out well, lol

[–]PM_Me_Your_Tits_Ladi 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

How are you able to say this? Are you not in Russia? Forgive me for my ignorance, but doesn't Russia ban speech that is critical of the government?

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I was born in Russia but I do not live there currently. But even if I did, no. Not quite. It is true that they censor media criticizing the government (a few bands have been prevented from playing for doing so I believe) but the average person saying "lol putin sucks" is not going to be arrested or fined.

There is a lot of fake news and disinformation about Russia's laws. I don't know much because I'm generally too dumb for politics. But I do know that the most common things reported are actually blown out of proportion, or don't really exist. Like the "gay propaganda ban" (Which is not gay specific and only applies to media shown to underage people - it's basically a ban on sexual content aimed at minors last I heard) and the "gay purges" (Unsourced claims coming from 1 shady "LGBT organization" which I highly suspect is fake)

That being said, don't get me wrong, the government is still fascist as fuck and they censor stupid things, I don't think they can even show depictions of alcohol on TV before a certain time or something stupid like that. A lot of it is due to religious influence.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Wow you are ignorant.

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The old "I don't have an argument so I'm just going to call you (negative adjective)" move, classy.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Sorry I was on break at work and didnt feel like spending all of it refuting you ignorant world view. Honestly, if I had bothered to look at your username I wouldn't have engaged in the first place since I think you get off on not seeing eye to eye with pretty much everyone.

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"I won't engage with you because of past irrelevant stuff and I'm not interested in learning or listening"

This is the issue with modern politics in a nutshell.

[–]zephyranthes 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

See Russian sexual media law that prohibits sexual content, including LGBT, being shown to kids, and gets misreported as a "gay propaganda ban." It's not, and it never was, and although Russia's censorship problem is insane and beyond unnecessary, I fully support not teaching explicit sexual content, including homosexuality, to students under 16.

What? This is a lie*. The "sexual media" law only targets "anti-family-values" content, which is radfem-adjacent body-positivity and some LGBT. No straight pervert ever got hit by it, no privileged libgay pervert either. Wonderzine continues operating. "Nonbinary" celebrity misogynists keep grooming children on Youtube and Tiktok.

(* I previously wrote "wrong", then I say your comment on gay purges. Yep, you're full of it, another colonialist "expat" singing the praises of the corrupt regime that is the source of your wealth.)