I do think there's some kind of propaganda going on, but I don't think it was created by gay people, nor does it serve the interests of gay people, nor is it intended to. It directly harms gay people for all the reasons I've specified in comments throughout this post. I think there are also complex and intertwined causes and motivations behind what is going on including mental disorders, gender ideology, trauma, abuse, depression, loneliness, idolization of victimhood, identity politics, intersectional rot, sexism, etc. and I'm not interested in sorting people into exclusive "victim" and "victimizer" categories. I do have some level of sympathy for the people being deluded, but as I've said, I'm predominantly concerned about the wellbeing of lesbian and bisexual women and the effect on same-sex rights, public discourse about and understanding of homosexuality and bisexuality, etc. And that's why I posted in this forum specifically.

Truth be told, I don't care. If they want to delude themselves and dedicate their life to full time LARP, that's on them. Nobody is required to be a lesbian. If, with the entirety of human knowledge at their finger tips, people still choose to be misinformed, then there's really no helping people like that. I just want men and bihet women to get out.

Cool, but it's all related. They're not going to get out as long as lesbianism is being marketed as an identity and lifestyle that anyone can opt into or out of. And as of right now, these people -- non-lesbians and lesbians who want to be seen as something else -- are controlling the discourse on what a lesbian is.