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[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

I've legitimately never seen a GC post that goes after men for problems they cause. They always attack women & "allied" (read: asskissing) men first. Like in discussions of say, casual sexism, they won't make posts calling out their male coworker who makes sexist jokes or how it's normal for men to say mean things about women. No, they'll post fucking rants about how Susan from their female-only book club has a husband and therefore is an ENABLING HANDMAIDEN COCKSUCKING STRAIGHT BITCH who is evil because obviously she's supporting sexism by... spins magical random wheel of radfem bullshit being heterosexual and not being a radical feminist. Or they'll complain about how that one (1) male poster who posted some important article about the dangers of gender or porn is an EVIL MALE INFILTRATOR even tho their sub never said it was female only, and that he literally wants to kill & rape women by INVADING THEIR WOMYN BORN WOMYN SPACES.

With the exception of special cases like Yaniv (but even then, GC was blaming his mother, lol) it's pretty much always other WOMEN who get the blame.

I know because I've seen it firsthand. I posted on /r/itsafetish back when it was still up and somewhere along the lines, some crazy radfem mod started going off on me because I mentioned I was a GNC guy, so obviously I was just like those evil MTF misogynists and that I needed to get off their radfem-exclusive sub, even though it was never advertised as female only.

Anyone can make any space they want but the thing is GC are hypocritical about it. I believe in free speech and everyone, even idiots, should be allowed to say whatever shit they want. That's fine. But the issue is that GC want these special echo chambers where they can say the most offensive, aggressive, anti mentally ill, anti intersex, anti everyone who's not a radfem, ironically anti woman shit they want, BUT they don't want anyone to complain and they don't want their "opposing" groups to have a platform.

A MTF posts something on twitter saying that he's owed sex? Omg evil rapist. Twitter ban him please, and ban all trans too, they are spreading dangerous ideology.

A radfem gets banned from twitter for saying that intersex women are men & that mentally ill = evil rapist psychopath? OMG this is sexism, they are SILENCING WOMBYN. We need to RISE up. How DARE they ban us?!

I just think it's stupid that they keep opening these PUBLIC "female only spaces" and then get mad when people don't tolerate their bullshit or argue with them. If you want a true echo chamber where no one disagrees and you won't be punished for being a hateful, batshit insane jackass, go make it private.

[–]bastetkat 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

So because you’ve never seen it, it never happens? I could also argue that I’ve never seen radfems do some of the things you’ve stated, therefore, “it never happens”. Lurking on radfem blogs and accounts is what helped me peak trans, and also think critically on certain sexist and misogynistic activism and movement that I never even thought was harmful due to my previous liberal feminist beliefs. Back then, I was one of the women radfems would’ve definitely criticized I guess. Instead of resenting radfems for also calling out women like me, I’m grateful for them for opening my eyes to the blatant harmful activism and movement that is currently masked as “progressive”. I’m grateful for them to make me realize to not to let the “woke bro libfems” who have their own agendas to speak over me and act like they know what’s best for women. From my experience, I can confidently say they do call out the bad men and that they fight for women’s rights. About the Yaniv thing, do you genuinely believe giving Yaniv’s mother some of the blame a bad thing? Radfems and people in general mainly blame him of course, but should we give his mother who enables and defends his predatory behaviour a pass because she’s a woman? And btw ovarit was invite only, not a free for all.

Edit: You’ll keep having your own opinions on radfems and that’s fine, but let’s not start claiming blatantly false information as fact just because you’ve personally never seen it.

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I lurked several GC places for years. Tumblr, Reddit, Twitter, you name it. I am being completely honest when I say yes, they only seem to attack women and "allied" men on a large scale. They always, without fail, will find a way to blame a woman (or "allied" man) for men's abusiveness instead of abusive men.

Don't pretend like I just saw one "crazy radfem" and made a naive opinion. I have been in that shit deep and seen it all, it's literally the reason I am so much against them.

You were literally indoctrinated, congrats! You know you can replace your experience with TRA phrases instead and it reads the same, right? "Lurking trans communities made me realize I was transphobic, now I have ditched my problematic ideology. They opened my eyes to tolerance & gender identity, and I'm grateful that they made me challenge my transphobic ways."

Radfems are as much of a cult as TRAs are. They don't care about oppression, they don't care about doing good, all they want to do is recruit and create an echo chamber. That's why they'd bully you for being a non radfem and why they go after women who aren't. They pretend that their ideology is the only true right way, just like TRAs, and everyone else is evil.

In the same way that some tiny percentage trans people don't think it's "transphobic" to be gay, don't hate or shit on intersex people, and aren't sexist, doesn't mean that their ideology isn't the fucking problem that's full of those things.

[–]bastetkat 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don't doubt your experiences, if you say you've never seen it, then you've never seen it. However, that doesn't mean my experiences suddenly becomes false. Please tell me how me realizing that TRA movement is trying redefine words like woman, promoting conversion therapy by using "woke language", allowing predators to easily enter female only spaces, promoting violence against women by calling us "terfs", etc. And realizing how a lot of the libfem activism doesn't really do much for women. How is all that the same as being "indoctrinated" into believing the trans ideology? I actually learned to think critically thanks to radfems, I mentioned that in my previous reply. Did I get "indoctrinated" because radfems showed actual receipts of what TRAs said themselves and all the damages that they've caused? If so, then this place would be "indoctrinating" us as well. I have been lurking in GC places and followed several of them for 4-5 years now, but my experiences are nothing like yours. Do I need to start pretending as if my own experiences never happened just because you never experienced it? Again, I could also argue the same to you. Anyone could replace other people's words with TRA phrases instead. That's not much of an argument.

Edit: Since I don't have an account on spinster, I decided to just now visit the other "evil radfem echo chamber".

They don't care about oppression, they don't care about doing good, all they want to do is recruit and create an echo chamber.

They're discussing topics ranging from the bad men, to the female victims, to the societal gender roles/stereotypes, politics, celebrating women from around the world, etc. I don't see the overwhelming amount of "women and allied men are to blame!!" posts.

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    Dude, we all know you're lying or delusional. Or lying and delusional. And if you're just lying I'm a little insulted you think anyone is dumb enough to not notice.

    [–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Ah yes, the old TRA-I mean radfem tactic. Fuck, you guys are getting hard to tell apart.

    "I have no argument so I'm just going to say you're a liar and/or mentally ill, because mental illness is bad!!!!!"