DiscussionDisagreeing with the trans narrative = white supremacy

submitted by julesburm1891 from self.LGBDropTheT

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/01/white-supremacist-protest-activism-emily-gorcenski?utm_source=pocket-newtab

This is ostensibly an interview with a data scientist who doxxes white supremacists in order to fight Nazism. The interviewee begins by talking about his experiences with the alt-right and actual white supremacists. However, when you read further, it becomes apparent that the interviewee defines white supremacist as anyone who doesn’t sit on the far left and/or anyone who doesn’t agree wholeheartedly with the trans agenda. (His reasoning is very jumbled and self-serving.)

What’s pertinent to us is the penultimate question. The interviewee has enough sense to not outright say homosexuals are bad. He does conflate people “gatekeeping sexuality” to anti-semitism and links “TERFs” to white supremacy.

This is something reported by a mainstream media source and I’ve got the feeling more of this nonsense is coming. What are your thoughts as to how we should best combat the slander and misrepresentation of our movement?

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[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 33 insightful - 4 fun33 insightful - 3 fun34 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

So according to this person, any black person who believes that there are only two genders is a self-hating race traitor? And any Jew who refuses to date transgender people is also self-hating?

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The word white supremacist is becoming meaningless now.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 22 insightful - 9 fun22 insightful - 8 fun23 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

Any word is meaningless from the mouth of genderqueer cultists.

[–]latuspodSuper Straight 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The technical term is false consciousness. It is where the term woke came from. Those who are woke have awaken from their false conciousness.

The entire ideology of intersectionality has been designed as a great big "gotcha" to trap anyone who disagrees. Being black, or Jewish, or even Trans doesnt matter if you dont think in the correct way.

[–]our_team_is_winning 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Terms that no longer have any meaning: racist, white supremacist, Nazi, and anything that ends with -phobe. They just spout them all day long to mean "anyone who disagrees with me." I just hear a little kid's voice taunting "oh yeah, well you're stupid!" They've decided these slurs still have "power," so they throw them at everyone who isn't in the Woke Cult. I mean they called the black Cuban leader of the Proud Boys a white supremacist! No matter how you feel about the Proud Boys, the leader isn't white. How many times have we seen gay men called "homophobes" at this point! The Woke use their own dictionary. "Gatekeeping sexuality" -- wow, have they opened the door wide enough for pedophiles yet? That is the goal.

[–]julesburm1891[S] 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I’m not a fan of Proud Boys or the folks involved in Unite the Right. But, I think it’s messed up to dox someone because you don’t like their views. This sort of behavior is toxic and will only lead to witch hunts.

I find it even more concerning that the woke narrative is rapidly becoming “homosexuals and feminists are white supremacists and we’ve already decided it’s okay to throw human decency out the window if that label is applied.”

[–]BiHorror 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I mean they called the black Cuban leader of the Proud Boys a white supremacist!

Okay, in all serious, is this a different Proud Boys we're talking about? Or the same Far right group as Gavin Mclnnes as its founder?

But yeah, they're watering down terms and making them useless... And when there will be an actual case of discrimination or a legit asshole, no ones gonna take it seriously.

And not only pedos, but any other mental disorder in relation to abnormal sexual attraction. Hopefully, the "decent" ones who aren't delusional on justifying their mental disorder (like virtuous pedophiles) stand against that bullshit.

Edit: nvm about the Proud Boys question, found the answer.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sounds like that bardfynn or how his name was, who was one of reasons this sub was banned from reddit.

[–]Shadow_the_Hedgehog 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Just another example of why intersectionality destroys any cause, illegitimate or no. The average person might kowtow to gender theory because they don't know any better (or they just don't have a twitter) and just want to appear polite, but everyone understands racism and the weight it carries, especially in politics for the last decade or so.

What I find the most disgusting is when TRAs and other radical activists use other grievance, usually racism, as an abusive gaslighting tactic. You can follow their doctrine to the letter but the second you disagree on any of it, not only are you excommunicated, but you're also now a racist. In fact, you always were and there's nothing you can do about it. Grovel and admit you hate black people people of color and maybe you'll get taken off the blocklists.

I'm not sure how to combat this other than refusing intersectionality in any regards, no matter how small. Just as a quick example- if the mods were to sticky a "donate to LGB of color" post with an explanation of "well yeah LGB have it bad right now but if they're not white they're having it worse!", we'll end up in the exact same purity spiral the TRAs on Twitter do. The second we add another cause/focus, the movment weakens.

[–]MiaXiang 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's indicative of people who just take what they want. Now they are taking for their own the oppression of people of color. The majority of the people doing this are white, specifically young white men.