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[–]JulienMayfair[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No, but if people do self-select, which we see in many areas of the culture, I don't automatically read that as a sign of systemic racism. For example, many churches are still de facto segregated even though there's no policy. It has to do with what people want in a religious service, and the style of church services in black churches tends to be very different from white churches. And then there's music. There are concerts that draw majority white audiences or majority black audiences. Some are mixed.

But I do buy part of their argument insofar as it's usually easy for white people in a majority white culture to be around people like them. Part of what this group I'm talking about did was have campouts for several days with only gay men allowed. That was something that gay men, especially 20 years ago, don't get to experience that much. It's hard to put it into words, but it was an important experience. I think it's the same for women. I know one woman who went to and all-female college, and she said it was a transformative experience for her. But that was self-selection. No one forces you to choose to go to an all-female college. And I can understand why black students would want a black student group if they're living in a majority white culture. I think in some cases that that can all be taken too far, but I don't have a problem with particular groups electing to have their own private space for specific reasons. I remember reading on GC about a transwoman who came to a workshop for pregnant women and acted pretty creepy. I think that workshop should have been limited to pregnant biological women, not a male-bodied person coming through as a tourist.

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no

You could have just stopped right there. Don't expect people to care about your space if you will exlude others from having theirs.