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[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I'm okay with my sex like being boring and "cis" - whatever "cis" means, presumably wokespeak for being sane. My sex life is my own business, nobody is else's. By the way, I love how this article mentioned "cis" white gay men in a negative light. Last I checked, gay white men are not the only people in the LGB community who are against this woke insanity.

[–]8bitgay 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I'd like it if they said we are "boring cis people" if they actually followed this view. I mean, just consider us boring and then leave us alone! Sure, create a cabaret just for yourselves and leave our spaces alone.

But in practice we know things aren't quite like that. I bet that a big part (if not most) of their audience is "boring cis gay men" who are guilted into thinking that they have to support these people. I bet that their next step is taking these shows to cis gay spaces too. And most of all I bet that even though they complain about boring cis gay men, they also demand the boring cis gay men to have sex with them.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Sadly, so many gay men have been demoralised, which is why they support he's horrid movements out of fear, or they stay silent. Gay men could collaborate with right wing political movements that oppose the woke insanity, but some of these movements are against homosexuality and are not going to help us, some of these movements would help us but they oppose gay marriage, and the rest of them, well, there's not enough of them. Besides, why should we have to rely solely on the right to stop the madness? There are left wing people who are against the madness as well. We need to get people across the political spectrum on our side. But until there are more left wing people who are vocal and brave enough to speak out, countless gay men are going to be silent and demoralised.

[–]8bitgay 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Gay men could collaborate with right wing political movements that oppose the woke insanity, but some of these movements are against homosexuality and are not going to help us

Definitely. Nah, I'm fine with not collaborating with right wing political movements. Both sides of straight-led politics are fine with throwing gays and lesbians under the bus, only remembering we exist when we can be useful. I trust neither, but somehow I trust the right wing even less.

Frankly I dunno the solution, because people who should be listening to this aren't here. I think a good practice is to save these materials. Articles like this are data about the current situation. This data can be useful when we need to show the situation to others, because others will often act like we are making up stuff.

Sadly, so many gay men have been demoralised, which is why they support he's horrid movements out of fear, or they stay silent.

It is really sad indeed. At least in my country it feels like the status quo for the gay community is for gays to mock and demonize other gay men, while they bend over for other groups. Frankly I think some gay guys should get therapy first of all, because instead of dealing with their sense of self hate and internalized homophobia in a healthy way they project it towards other gay men and affect the whole community negatively.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It frustrates me to no end that that gay men cannot get along with each other, especially given the circumstances we are in right now. We need to stick together.

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm fine with not collaborating with right wing political movements.

Indeed. Lie down with dogs and you get up with fleas. No thanks.

[–]fuck_reddit 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Their dirty little secret is that they want to have "boring," "cis," "white," "gay" sex... otherwise they wouldn't work so hard to be considered attractive (cause in the end, they are trying to be attractive, not by working to raise their standard, but to lower other people's standards).

[–]8bitgay 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They can be very incel-like for many reasons. One of them is that they will expect and demand sex from cis gays/lesbians but when confronted about it they'll say "oh no I don't want to have sex with transphobes".

[–]fuck_reddit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Their entire psyche seems to be riddled with contradiction. I think the only way they can live with themselves is by projecting their faults onto everyone else in the world. “I am guilty and irredeemable, but so is every other living person.”

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

BuT cis white gay men are these evil privileged oppressors! /s