ColonizationJacob Tobia says that nonbinary representation in children's shows is "vital". Ever wonder why I don't watch " She-ra"?

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[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 32 insightful - 5 fun32 insightful - 4 fun33 insightful - 5 fun -  (7 children)

As a feminine guy, calling this clown in colorful lipstick "feminine" feels insulting to both me and women as a whole. Femininity is more than just makeup and this guy acts "masculine" in that he's entitled anyway

[–]8bitgay 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I'm not even particularly feminine but compared to non-binary people like Jacob, Alok, Sam Smith and Jonathan Van Ness I'd be considered super feminine. I've taken pics in my pajamas where I look way more feminine than they do with all their make-up and dresses.

I feel like these people's notion of being feminine is just following RuPaul's Drag Race. And for some reason these self-called feminine people always have a beard.

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

I feel like they think feminine = stereotypical girly items (lipstick, jewelry etc) regardless of how masculine they actually look. Where I'd define it more as in someone's physical appearance, ie, having a manly jaw shape, or having feminine hips.

Which is why I look closer to a woman in no makeup and just waking up than the average crossdresser does in full drag.

The beard marks them as nonbinary of course! Beards are for men, lipstick are for women, mix both and suddenly you're a special "other" snowflake, so unique!

[–]8bitgay 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's not even just non-binary people who do that. I've also seen this a lot among gay men, since they say that "masc4masc = bad", so if they claim to be "fem" they suddenly are cooler. But their idea of being "fem" is just being their bearded masculine selves and then adding some nail polish and emulating stereotypical behaviors.

I remember discussing with some guy months ago and he was saying how we (the gay guys who don't buy the TRA narrative) are just a bunch of toxic masculinity masc4mascs. Meanwhile he claimed to be an oppressed fem guy. I went to check his pics and he was just a basic normative masculine guy. I pointed out that he looked normative and he got all defensive like "omg you never saw me in real life, you don't know how fem I am". Yeah, if you don't even try to look feminine in social media where you can surround yourself with people that support you I doubt you do that outside of your house.

I don't see the guys who actually look and act more feminine caring about this drama.

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

masc4masc is bad but fem4fem is apparently also bad, because I've gotten so much shit for saying actually, I prefer other feminine guys.

Apparently if you're gay you still need to emulate rigid and toxic gender stereotypes - one must be the "manly dominant man" and the other must be "girly and submissive." If you go outside of that, people screech.

Yeah no that's BS. A lot of (actually) feminine guys are against TRA crap too. Gay or otherwise. I'm not the only one that I've seen.

[–]8bitgay 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm just assuming, so feel free to correct me. But maybe these "fem" guys (aka fairly masculine guys who claim to be feminine) get mad at people like you because they don't fit your definition of feminine. They don't want you (or others) to feel attracted to cute feminine guys, they want you to feel attracted to the obnoxious "fem" guys.

[–]Porphyria 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not just them ; that's something I've been ranting and raving about for years now. Feminine=what a woman looks like, NOT her personality or character traits. If she's young, pretty , slender, with long flowing hair, she's automatically feminine.

And some do indeed just winnow it down to using consumer products (makeup, trinkets, etc) : Nicholas Wade in the PS edition of Sex at Dawn , claiming that French women are 'more in touch with their femininity' because they tie scarves around their necks. Seriously. That ws the only thing he cited as proof, that they tie fucking scarves around their necks (oh, and allegedly "European" women are more approachable by men they don't know at bars and other minglers ; I guess that counts too).

It doesn't matter how sterotypically womanly (nurturing, kind, or gentle) a woman is , if she's ugly, fat, middle aged or old, she's not feminine. QED.