DiscussionJust a quick note to all of you.

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[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 35 insightful - 5 fun35 insightful - 4 fun36 insightful - 5 fun -  (5 children)

Welcome!

I'm curious as to what made you peak?

What made me peak all over again just the other day was skimming through We Believe the Children: A Moral Panic in the 80's (highly recommended to everyone here.) I don't have kids of my own and sometimes it's hard for me to remember how utterly clueless and malleable kids that age (below 6-7) are. The children in that book were literally caught up in a whirlpool of lies and gaslighting and emotional/mental abuse at the hands of the very adults who were trying to help them (police, detectives, psychiatrists, parents, social workers) a huge majority of them admitted to sexual abuse that never happened. So whenever someone says "my kid has known he/she was a boy/girl since he/she was a toddler" I do not believe it for a second. One of the defense attorneys was able to get children to "admit" Chuck Norris, the City Attorney of LA, and other random government employees "molested" them just to prove how easy it was. All he had to do was point at a photo and ask "did this man molest you?" and there was a 50-50 chance the kid would say yes or no, that's how emotionally worn down these kids were. They were just saying anything to get the questions to stop so that they could go home and go back to normal.

Believing children of that age regarding "gender" and putting them on the path of puberty blockers and social transitioning and that whole package is so unbelievably cruel and immoral, especially considering what happened with Jazz Jennings (his genitals don't even function, he's never had an orgasm in his life and never will. And that's the least of his problems.)

Anyway, enough about me. How about you? What made you peak?

[–]zerosis[S] 37 insightful - 2 fun37 insightful - 1 fun38 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Honestly, it wasn't just one thing that made me peak. It was more like a thousand little things, things I ignored for a while, and then it got to a point where I just couldn't ignore them anymore. I had a bit of an identity crisis when I realized that I was officially on the 'other side' now, because I had so tightly wrapped up the idea of being a 'good person' with the ideal of trans rights activism. There were just so many little signs that pointed to the TRA movement spiraling out of control. Contrapoints being cancelled (I was a pretty avid follower at the time) kind of started me questioning. A lot of alarming vitriol was being leveled at Contra for stating an opinion that was contrary to the highest 'woke' standards, and even the criticisms that weren't vitriolic were misguided to a disturbing degree. Then came the whole J.K. Rowling thing. I found myself agreeing with her on the points she brought up, which confused the fuck out of me, to be honest. I didn't know where I even stood at that point.

Then, some things happened in my personal life. I honestly don't want to go too into detail, because if there's a chance that anyone involved knew I was posting here, it could end pretty badly for me. I know quite a few trans people, some of them are very involved in my personal life, and I also know just as many detransitioners who fell out of the 'culty' side of the trans movement and were damaged pretty badly by the whole experience. A marriage was destroyed and a strong circle of friendship shattered over this shit, and the repercussions are still being felt a year later. Friends were excommunicated (and that is a big fucking deal when their families have already disowned them for being gay) because it was found out that they were excluding trans people in their dating life. I can't even begin to describe how chaotic things have gotten with my family/friend group since the TRA movement has kicked into high gear. I turned from hardcore TRA, to being completely disillusioned in only a few months. I feel like I'm only becoming more and more resentful by the day. I stopped using dating apps or gay male forums, because for the first time in ten years of using them, I'm seeing trans men every 3 profiles (some of whom aren't even remotely trying to pass) throwing a tantrum and ready to report anyone who isn't willing to get down with a vagina or neo-penis. Not all of them are horrible or rude, actually, but I still don't understand how or why there are so many of them in a space that is meant for homosexual men. I know lesbians have been dealing with this for years, but now that I'm dealing with it myself, I fucking get it. It feels like you're living in the Twilight Zone, being constantly co-erced into playing some weird roleplaying game that you can't get out of. I know it's even worse for lesbians, and has been for a while, and I feel terrible for not seeing that sooner. I just want to be allowed to be gay again.

Idk. I feel like I'm just rambling incoherently at this point, but to sum it up, it was kind of a long, agonizing process that made me wake up from TRA hell. I'm not sure I can point to one specific moment where the dam broke.

[–]fuckupaddamsBisexual Terve 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I know lesbians have been dealing with this for years, but now that I'm dealing with it myself, I fucking get it.

Did you just previously have no opinion on that when you were a TRA, because "hey at least it's not happening to me?"

[–]zerosis[S] 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh no I had an opinion on it, and my opinion was shitty. I thought lesbians effected by this were simply being transphobic. That's what I was told repeatedly by my woke friends, and I just went along with it. I never put any actual critical thought into it and just assumed the TRA rhetoric was correct.

[–]reluctant_commenter 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I had a bit of an identity crisis when I realized that I was officially on the 'other side' now, because I had so tightly wrapped up the idea of being a 'good person' with the ideal of trans rights activism.... Then came the whole J.K. Rowling thing. I found myself agreeing with her on the points she brought up, which confused the fuck out of me, to be honest. I didn't know where I even stood at that point.

This was essentially the same for me as well. JK Rowling was a huge surprise to me-- not what she said, but that so many of my friends blanket dismissed her as transphobic, and never even read what she wrote. I read her essay and was like, I agree with almost all of this. Then I started to wonder if that made me a transphobe, and that's when I started to go down the rabbit hole to try and figure out what transgenderism is really about.

TRAs call JK Rowling "evil". I have seen literally so much vitriol hurled her way, especially on Reddit. It's a bold claim to say that the person who had written all those genuine and kindhearted lessons into Harry Potter, was some kind of demon. Either JK or the trans rights activists were very wrong. Turns out it was the TRAs.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

but I still don't understand how or why there are so many of them in a space that is meant for homosexual men.

These are heterosexuals transing into homosexuals so there will always be more of them than us. There will literally not be enough lesbians for the tranbians or gay men for the tranmen. We will be overrun