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[–]a_blue_bird 23 insightful - 3 fun23 insightful - 2 fun24 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Those are the people who Yuri Bezmenov was referring to when he spoke of ''useful idiots'' (useful to the Soviet Union and still to Russia today) who can be presented with all the facts imaginable, but they will never believe in the brutality of Gulags (and the Soviet regime in general) until they end up there themselves.

the longest sentence was 10 years

25 years. But you could go to a Gulag as many times as the authorities wanted, for whatever reason.

The aim was to correct and change the ways of criminals.”

Funny they call them criminals, considering that most of the imprisoned had not commited any real crimes, but were either political opponents, people who refused to collaborate, intelligentsia, people who had more property than was acceptable, entire families of the previous four groups etc. Just pretty regular people, many (perhaps most) of whom were imprisioned without ever being brought to a court.

[–]BEB 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Coming to the US soon, no matter who wins in November...

[–]lurkergirl 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You'd think this is true if you've only read Robert Conquest or Solzenitsyn. They're trash historians.

[–]a_blue_bird 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What is false in that?

[–]turtleduck23[S] 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

FOR THOSE WHO CAN"T SEE:

Students at a leading London university have been condemned as blind to reality after defending the system of Soviet Gulag labour camps where thousands perished as “compassionate” places of rehabilitation.

Trans rights campaigners at Goldsmiths University described the Gulags as benign places where inmates received education, training and enjoyed the opportunity to take part in clubs, sports and theatre groups.

In fact most historians agree they were a brutal network of labour camps used by Stalin’s Soviet dictatorship to incarcerate internal opponents and so-called "enemies of the state", resulting in the death of more than an estimated 1.05 million people.

During a bizarre exchange on Twitter the LGBTQ group at Goldsmiths Student Union described life in the Gulags as “rehabilitatory” and “educational”.

Paradoxically the thread was written as an apparent justification for an earlier post by the same group which threatened to send a political opponent “to the gulag”.

The threat was made against Claire Graham, a special education needs teacher, who wrote objecting to LGBTQ Goldsmith’s threat to target feminist academics who they claimed were prejudiced against transgender individuals.

Tans activists refer to these women by the derogatory term TERFS, claiming they are guilty of hate crimes for their opposition to allowing men undergoing gender transition to use women’s toilets and other female only spaces.

In its Tweets, Goldsmith LGBTQ said: “The ideas of TERFS and anti-trans bigots literally kill and must be eradicated through re-education.”

Ms Graham said: “I said that I thought their choice of language, in talking about lists and purging people was intended to shut down debate about trans people and the law. I then received unpleasant and dehumanising threats about being sent to the Gulag. I feel bad for other trans people because this kind of response by some makes them seem so extreme and intolerant.”

Goldsmith LGBTQ subsequently attempted to justify the threat to send Ms Graham to the Gulag by stating that “sending a bigot to one is actually a compassionate, non-violent course of action.”

The original Twitter thread from Goldsmith LGBTQ, since removed The original Twitter thread from Goldsmith LGBTQ, since removed CREDIT: ARCHIVE.TODAY The Twitter thread went on to state that the CIA had spread “lies” about the Gulag system, adding: “First myth to debunk: ‘u work until u die in gulags!’ The Soviets did away with life sentences and the longest sentence was 10 years. Capital punishment was reserved for the most heinous, serious crimes.

“The penal system was a rehabilitatory one. The aim was to correct and change the ways of criminals.”

It added: “Much like wider Soviet society, everyone who was ‘able’ to work did so at a wage proportionate to those who weren’t incapacitated and, as they gained skills, were able to move up the ranks and work under less supervision.

“Educational work was also a prominent feature of the Soviet penal system. There were regular classes, book clubs, newspaper editorial teams, sports theatre and performance groups.”

In contrast, mainstream historians have concluded that the gulag system, which reached its peak under Joseph Stalin's rule, was a system of forced labour camps used to incarcerate a wide range of convicts, from petty criminals to political prisoners - including Stalin’s left-wing, Trotskyist opponents and gay men and women.

The rest of Goldsmith LGBTQ's Twitter thread justifying the Gulag system The rest of Goldsmith LGBTQ's Twitter thread justifying the Gulag system CREDIT: ARCHIVE.TODAY Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, winner of the Nobel Prize in Literature, who survived eight years imprisoned in a Gulag incarceration, brought its horrors to the world's attention in his 1973 book The Gulag Archipelago.

Soviet files show that 1,053,829 people died in the camps between 1934 and 1953, mostly as a result of deliberate starvation.

The historian Anne Applebaum, author of Gulag: A History, said: “It was an incredibly brutal system designed to eliminate Stalin's’ enemies and terrorise the wider population. Most of the inmates were innocent of anything we would regard as a crime.”

Ms Graham said: “The LGBTQ group’s interpretation of the history of the Gulag system is madness.”

Goldsmiths Students’ Union has now suspended the group and withdrawn its support for its activities, saying the Gulag threat - and subsequent refusal by the group to apologise for it - clearly breached the students' union code of conduct.

In a statement backed by Goldsmiths University the students’ union said: “We condemn the abhorrent content of the tweets and they are in complete opposition to the views and values of the Students’ Union.”

Members of Goldsmiths LGBTQ refused to comment when approached by The Daily Telegraph.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

ty was gonna ask lol

[–]PassionateIntensity 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Goldsmiths is like the UK version of Evergreen. That's were Lily Madigan sexually assaulted his way through the female student body, after making sure women had no spaces he couldn't enter. His victims even helpfully covered up his crimes at first so they wouldn't be "misused" by "TERFs."

[–]BEB 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The woman, Claire Graham, targeted by the wannabe Soviets is an intersex advocate and intersex herself.

She has written a lot on intersex conditions and why they shouldn't be appropriated by LGBTQ+, because intersex are Disorders of Sexual Development - actual physical conditions, not a feeling in ones head, so have nothing to do with sexual orientation or gender identity.

Also, a prominent US intersex organization asked the LGBTQ+++ movement to remove Intersex, If you'll notice, you rarely see the I anymore.

[–]fijupanda 6 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

suuuure. that's why Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn wrote Gulag the Fun We all Had.

[–]CoraRys 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's revolting how little they know about the suffering people endured under the Soviet Union. Millions of people died, yet they act like it was such a happy place. In my county (ex USSR) being sentenced to the gulags was almost equal to a death sentence. I can't even discribe how disgusted I feel after I read that abomination. (sorry for the rant)

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Rose of Dawn did a video about this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLeQ9Tnnl7w

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Is it even worth going to university at this point?

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Holy fucking shit this reads like obvious satire.

[–]turtleduck23[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Q loves them communists

[–]marmorsymphata 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The communist targeting of disenfranchised youth for brainwashing is so shameful.

[–]RedditVihaaLesboja 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Throwback to the time an admin of a popular lgbt leftbook group said "Stalin was a good dude"