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[–]reluctant_commenter 53 insightful - 10 fun53 insightful - 9 fun54 insightful - 10 fun -  (6 children)

You mean r/transSubreddit#99999?

I'm kind of bothered by how stereotypical it is, though. Like the muscle-arm image and "bro BRO BRO". You can't make someone a man by invoking a bunch of gender stereotypes.

I think this puzzles me most about the transgender rights movement, actually. They say that gender is innate and an inner feeling. So why on earth do they look to outside validation? If it truly comes from within, then no amount of external validation in the world will make you accept yourself. It is like me saying, "I need everyone to tell me lots of nice things about myself and then it'll be easy for me to feel validated." When really, it is going to be hard no matter what for someone to accept themself.

Forcing others to use your preferred pronouns.. if gender identity was really "innate" and independent of cultural influence, then why would people using your preferred pronouns make a difference?

edit: Also, to be fair, straight non-trans males calling each other "bro" doesn't make them any more of a man, either, lol.

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 38 insightful - 1 fun38 insightful - 0 fun39 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

This point has been made over and over again from the beginning of this mess, but I'll say it again. Pronouns are used most of the time when the person isn't even there. (Especially on the internet, nobody's talking about you, you're not that special. Nobody needs your damned pronouns.) When you're talking TO this person, you're going to be using you/your/yours (unless they start demanding the thou/thee/thine pronouns next...)

And being compelled to use stupid pronouns when the person isn't even there because you know some of the other people present will overhear you and report back that you committed a pronoun crime.... It's such controlling and toxic behavior.

And... "preferred pronouns..." since preference is a choice (just like genital preference) why can't these people just choose not to make life harder on everyone else and just use normal pronouns?

[–]reluctant_commenter 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, the controlling aspect is a reason why some of them might insist on it. Makes sense. The "reporting back on", lol, I've seen a lot of that.

[–]DimDroog 11 insightful - 5 fun11 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

(unless they start demanding the thou/thee/thine pronouns next...)

If I ever run into a Pronoun Nazi, these will be my pronouns, and I will demand they use them.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

My pronoun will be "Your Highness", "Their Highness", "Their Highnesses". Just because I have the highground.

[–]notdelusionalbased faggot 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's a really good point. It's like they have an unhealthy obsession with what other people think of them 😂The complete opposite of confidence. I keep saying it... these people have extreme inferiority complexes and this trans stuff is simply a coping mechanism.

[–]blackrainbow 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Keep in mind a lot of them are simply teenage girls