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[–]8bitgay 19 insightful - 5 fun19 insightful - 4 fun20 insightful - 5 fun -  (6 children)

Since when does not wanting to have sex with someone/not finding them attractive mean that you dislike them as a group?

Fair question.

because if someone states "I don't want to date/have sex with trans people" and don't reach any definitive conclusions other than "because they're trans" then that's generalizing that demographic.

you see a trans person you find extremely attractive and go "ah, they're trans, shame. If only they'd been cis I would've dated them" then it really begs the question "why does it matter?"

And of course that would be the answer. Generalizations are fine when it comes to attraction. I don't need to meet all women and I don't need to come with some big reasonings just to say I'm not attracted to women.

I also love the premise of "you see a trans person you find extremely attractive". Sorry, but that never happened.

[–]CrashCourse 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

If only they'd been cis I would've dated them" then it really begs the question "why does it matter?"

I wonder if a gay guy said that to a woman, they'd say the same.

[–]BiHorror 10 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Or straight man says that to a lesbian (oh wait...)

[–]8bitgay 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've seen many gay men making this argument. The TQ supporters always answer that it's a false equivalence. According to their viewpoint, if your sexuality is gay it's ok to exclude women. But you're attracted to men, and FtM are men.

The issue of course is that their definition only works if you consider self-identified gender as the point of sexuality (and even then there are many contradictions). If I see a sexy guy I don't need to ask his gender to find him attractive.

[–]insta 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I also love the premise of "you see a trans person you find extremely attractive".

Whenever someone needs to invent a scenario to prove their point it is generally because they're reaching. They need to make up this scenario where you've already accepted their premise in order for their ideas to make sense. That's not how this works.

[–]fuck_reddit 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you're using a hypothetical in a conversation about sexual attraction, it's because one person has never seen a trans person that they're attracted to. It's frankly just coercive and rapey.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

It is so simple!

If you want to date people with excess weight, you are hating all thin people. If you want to date less tall people than you - you are hating every single tall person. If you like people who are reading books, you hate all people who dislike reading books. If you are not watching movies - you are hating everyone who is watching movies.