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[–]julesburm1891 34 insightful - 4 fun34 insightful - 3 fun35 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

I like how the mods posted that the rule was “you don’t have to think like us.” But, how fast would any comments from bi people stating they aren’t into trans people get deleted?

[–][deleted] 18 insightful - 4 fun18 insightful - 3 fun19 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Faster than you can say “comphet.”

[–]Lessom 27 insightful - 6 fun27 insightful - 5 fun28 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

That user slenderman (trans male and isn’t even trying to pass) is vile. He is pretty much trying to tell someone as they are bisexual they have no reason to not be attracted to trans people.

He is even saying the person is a disappointment to the LGBTQ+ community for not wanting to fuck a trans person loool. Their desperation is pathetic.

[–]Rosefield[S] 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Well I'm not a member of the lgbtq+ community. I belong to the lgb. I don't care what the deranged alphabet soup thinks.

[–]CJLez 23 insightful - 11 fun23 insightful - 10 fun24 insightful - 11 fun -  (3 children)

Think of it this way. Homo means the same,

Good! Now... what does sex mean?

so homosexual means attracted to those of the same gender.

Nope.

[–]Rosefield[S] 5 insightful - 6 fun5 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Homo means same or other

Just like bi means 2 or more

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Omnigender (AMAB) is searching other omnigender (AFAB) for a homogenderual relationship!

[–]SeasideLimbs 24 insightful - 2 fun24 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

So now they're coming for the bisexual subreddits as well. Figures.

[–]ElectricSheepSuperBi 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Damn. I was hoping we were still under the radar.

[–][deleted] 14 insightful - 19 fun14 insightful - 18 fun15 insightful - 19 fun -  (0 children)

I am attracted to finding another planet to live on.

[–]8bitgay 19 insightful - 5 fun19 insightful - 4 fun20 insightful - 5 fun -  (6 children)

Since when does not wanting to have sex with someone/not finding them attractive mean that you dislike them as a group?

Fair question.

because if someone states "I don't want to date/have sex with trans people" and don't reach any definitive conclusions other than "because they're trans" then that's generalizing that demographic.

you see a trans person you find extremely attractive and go "ah, they're trans, shame. If only they'd been cis I would've dated them" then it really begs the question "why does it matter?"

And of course that would be the answer. Generalizations are fine when it comes to attraction. I don't need to meet all women and I don't need to come with some big reasonings just to say I'm not attracted to women.

I also love the premise of "you see a trans person you find extremely attractive". Sorry, but that never happened.

[–]CrashCourse 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

If only they'd been cis I would've dated them" then it really begs the question "why does it matter?"

I wonder if a gay guy said that to a woman, they'd say the same.

[–]BiHorror 10 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Or straight man says that to a lesbian (oh wait...)

[–]8bitgay 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've seen many gay men making this argument. The TQ supporters always answer that it's a false equivalence. According to their viewpoint, if your sexuality is gay it's ok to exclude women. But you're attracted to men, and FtM are men.

The issue of course is that their definition only works if you consider self-identified gender as the point of sexuality (and even then there are many contradictions). If I see a sexy guy I don't need to ask his gender to find him attractive.

[–]insta 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I also love the premise of "you see a trans person you find extremely attractive".

Whenever someone needs to invent a scenario to prove their point it is generally because they're reaching. They need to make up this scenario where you've already accepted their premise in order for their ideas to make sense. That's not how this works.

[–]fuck_reddit 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you're using a hypothetical in a conversation about sexual attraction, it's because one person has never seen a trans person that they're attracted to. It's frankly just coercive and rapey.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

It is so simple!

If you want to date people with excess weight, you are hating all thin people. If you want to date less tall people than you - you are hating every single tall person. If you like people who are reading books, you hate all people who dislike reading books. If you are not watching movies - you are hating everyone who is watching movies.

[–]Criticallacitirc 19 insightful - 4 fun19 insightful - 3 fun20 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

"And no, there isn't a difference between a cis woman and a trans one, other than the trans woman is born diffrently. That's like saying "I like you a lot but you're born in Africa Soo no i'll Pass"

God, I feel like I'm past peaking. Just throw me into the abyss, I can't handle the insanity.

[–]LasagnaRossa 16 insightful - 4 fun16 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

I swear these people live on a world completely different. Go tell to a straight man that there's no difference between a woman and a trans woman and you'll see pitchforks everywhere.

[–]throwawayfuckreddit 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The lies they tell. Wow.

[–]hufflepuff-poet 18 insightful - 4 fun18 insightful - 3 fun19 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

"and they are all capable of loving trans people. You are free to decide that you have a preference for not being able to be attracted to trans people, and others are free to think you're creepy as a result.

Thank you."

So, this is basically the mod saying if you aren't into trans people you better stay quiet about it or else. But "you don't have to think like us". Ok.

[–]PlayCardsNotPeople 20 insightful - 9 fun20 insightful - 8 fun21 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

It's creepy to not be attracted to trans?
Cool. I'll add that to the list of things I am.

[–]reluctant_commenter 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

It's so shame-y.

"and they are all capable of loving trans people"

...But the ones who aren't are viewed as deficient human beings and "creepy".

[–]insta 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

It's so shame-y.

So much of this movement comes down to sexual attraction. Honestly, I'm not even against discussion of trans rights when it comes to housing or jobs or stuff but these people cannot get over the fact that some people find them unattractive

[–]throwawayfuckreddit 18 insightful - 3 fun18 insightful - 2 fun19 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

whats up with them doing this? One mintue no one wants to date them, the next mintue EVERYONE wants to date them and the nasty terfs and bigots are the only people who don't.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Think the common theme is their knowledge that, in all probability, whoever they're addressing doesn't want to date them.

Hence these two tactics: "Nobody ELSE wants to date us = they're mean = we're victims = you don't wanna be like THEM do you?"; "Everyone ELSE wants to date us = that's normal/cool/right = you do wanna be like THEM don't you?"

Or, in other (shitty PUA) words: "negging".

[–]insta 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[–]dandeliondynasty 17 insightful - 4 fun17 insightful - 3 fun18 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

And all lesbians are attracted to men self-IDing as women! And all straight men are attracted to ugly men too!

[–]fuck_reddit 16 insightful - 4 fun16 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

"Andro[genous] is generally considered the most attractive" uh I think the fuck not. Miss me with that. I prefer strong, masculine men.

[–]SilverWolf 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

"You are free to decide that you have a preference for not being able to be attracted to trans people, and others are free to think you're creepy as a result. Thank you" Oh this just has me pissed off, especially the "not being able" part, like there's something were missing because we don't want a mix of man/woman/other

[–]throwawayfuckreddit 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's like these people live in another world where everyone but the weirdos are trans attracted.

[–]BiHorror 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Did anyone else see that post about the "1990 bisexual manifesto"? Fuck that, I'm not attracted to gender identity.

[–]fuck_reddit 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't get the [sexuality] manifestos. I just read the "gay manifesto" from 1970 and I don't agree with a word of it. It pushes the gender bullshit and says gay guys will eventually be attracted to women. I agree, I'm not attracted to "gender" or "gender identity"

[–][deleted] 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

LOOL. okay tranners, you just keep on sending bi people messages online and see how many take the bait. They can prove their own hypothesis for themselves.

[–]Rosefield[S] 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

[–]LasagnaRossa 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

iF yOuRe Be YoU LiKe BoTh, aNd tRaNs PeOplE aRe LiKe CiS pEoPlE

FUCKING NO, OR THERE WOULDN'T EVER HAVE BEEN THE ISSUE IN THE FIRST PLACE

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Looks like they're allowing comments that disagree (but the post is also locked as of ?? time). The OP also acknowledged saying "all" was bogus.

I'm more interested in the meaning of the handgun in the image. Because it looks like "agree with me or else."

[–]RedditHatesLesbiansHomosexual Not Queer 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Anyone notice how you have bi_irl and gay_irl and egg_irl which are all very specific spaces, while all lesbians have is the inclusive super wlw_irl? Digression and a small thing but that's always bugged me. Wlw_irl is just bisexual: woman edition.

[–]reluctant_commenter 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You know, I actually kind of wish we had a s/lesbian_irl meme subgroup here, now you mention that.

[–]AnokiFrench 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Hmm pansexuality exist right, so why are they dragging bisexual now ?

[–]Rosefield[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because they need everyone to be attracted to them. Narcs gonna narc.

[–]PeakingPeachEaterfemale♀ | detrans🦎 | eater of peaches 🍑 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Always thought pansexual was basically for people who like trans apart from biological sex, while bisexual strictly likes biological sex(female and male).

Guess the TRAs are trying to redefine bisexuality now, unfortunately...

[–]Kai_Decadence 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Color me shocked lol But no seriously it's true, bisexuals are the ones who date trans-identified people. Lesbians/Gays are not attracted to the opposite sex and Straight people are not attracted to the same sex and no amount of delusion is gonna change that. The thing with bisexuality though is that it can fall into three categories. You have Androphilia which is the attraction to masculinity regardless of sex, Gynephelia which is the attraction to femininity regardless of sex, and then "Fluid" where they can be attracted to any sex regardless of their self-expression.

[–]TurkishCoffee 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

...bi doesn't mean all, and your definitions leave out enough people - there's a reason pansexual used to mean something. Not all of us want to date trans identified people (or all expression/sex combinations).

I'm attracted to masculinity on the male sex ,and femininity on the female sex. turns out both matter. And yes, that means I also wouldn't find a butch lesbian attractive for romance purposes, nor a metrosexual or flamboyant straight or bisexual man.

This by no means makes a butch lesbian, flamboyant bi or straight man, or trans person less valid or less "attractive" in an objective sense. it doesn't check the boxes for me and i'm not gonna be sorry it doesn't.

[–]Kai_Decadence 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I didn't say bi means "all" but it does mean two because there are only two sexes and bisexual people are capable of being attracted to both. The whole "Sexuality is a spectrum" jargon really only applies to Bisexual people because like I said already, straight people are not attracted to the same sex and gays/lesbians are not attracted to the opposite sex, that is literally all I was saying and no, I don't buy into "Pansexuality" either because I don't believe in transgenderism. In order for something like "Pansexualty" to work, you have to believe that transgenderism is real via people can be born in the wrong bodies and I don't buy that nonsense at all. So take that away and "Pansexual" is just a fancier word for "Bisexual".

I'm attracted to masculinity on the male sex ,and femininity on the female sex. turns out both matter. And yes, that means I also wouldn't find a butch lesbian attractive for romance purposes, nor a metrosexual or flamboyant straight or bisexual man.

I forgot to mention the other kind where a bisexual can just attracted to gender conforming people. So in that case, a bi person being attracted to masculine men and feminine women but it doesn't take away the other types of bisexuality like I highlighted before. Like you have some bi people who say they are only attracted to femininity, these people would be "Gynephelic" bisexuals because like I explained before, it's the attraction to femininity regardless of sex. And then you have others who are mostly attracted to masculinity which is where they would be "Androphilic" which is attraction to masculinity in their partners. And then you have bi people who don't have an overall preference for masculinity or femininity and can find both attractive which is what would make them "Fluid" since they can go for any person regardless of their presentation.