I used to hate /r/askgaybros, but lately they give me hope that the whole LGB people haven't gone crazy

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[–]fuck_reddit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yep, I think you've hit the nail on the head. One of the threads on AGB that was asserting "trans men are men" was filled with normal gay guys asking these trans "guys" to define manhood. When these trans guys did, it was abundantly clear that they weren't guys and had a fetishist/homophobic/etc. view of gay guys. A straight guy, however, is probably less certain (or able to assert) what womanhood is. It infuriates them that their sexual targets so swiftly and easily expose their false-persona.

[–]notdelusionalbased faggot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

My definition of manhood is the shared experience of adult males. Our physical bodies are our human basis, so body parts like genitals matter. For example, every guy can relate to one another what it's like to have a dick and balls, and that has social consequences. I wouldn't expect a female to be able to fully understand its scope. I suspect there remain many unknowns related to Y chromosome gene expression which also contribute to the male body shared experience--hormones are likely being given far too much prominence in the equation.

The "trans X ARE X" dogma is a stubborn insistence that details don't matter. It's annoyingly anti-science.

[–]fuck_reddit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah. Hormones being used to "make someone" the opposite sex is like putting a bandaid on a bullet wound, the "damage" of puberty and nearly two decades of development is already there. Also, administering hormones/blockers at a young age doesn't change much either, most of the effort is just preventing what would naturally happen, not promoting the opposite. Also there's so much development that occurs pre-puberty that it's just not really possible to change sexes.