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[–]notdelusionalbased faggot 31 insightful - 1 fun31 insightful - 0 fun32 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

LGB men and women did humor the trans community and let them call themselves gay/lesbian unquestioned for years. The trans community didn’t take this as a convenient way to say to which sex they’re attracted and let it alone. Instead, they redefine terms, demand all LGB spaces be changed to accommodate them, spew the cotton/boxer ceiling rhetoric, harass LGB people, and work very hard to cancel and deplatform any LGB person who questions any facet of this madness. The trans community as a whole has shown that they are not willing to respect boundaries and that they will take a mile if given an inch.

It is the same with the pronoun game. To accomodate a nonsense is to promote it. People say they do it to be "nice" and "respectful", but it's not nice to participate in a lie. In reality it's a way for people to take the easy way out and not do the hard work of insisting on truth.

Once people started to play along with the pronoun game, it set the stage for further and more extreme demands. The LGB sphere is where it first gained traction, so of course we're now dealing with an insistence that we also have to redefine ourselves.

[–]julesburm1891[S] 26 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

100% agree. Both behaviors have allowed for ever-changing goal posts.

Allowing trans people to call themselves lesbian or gay quickly became “I belong in gay/lesbian spaces.” That became, “you have to consider the possibility of being attracted to me.” And that because (nauseatingly fast), “if you don’t fuck me, you’re a bigot. Let me redefine all the rules while I’m at it.”

The same thing has happened with pronouns.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You give them an inch, and they will take a mile by force. This pronoun game became mainstream around 2016 or 2017 and we were stupid enough to promote it, let alone participate in it. The solution was there the whole time: if you want to know a person's pronouns, look at this person or listen to this person's voice.

[–][deleted] 16 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Absolutely this. I am in the just say no phase of my trans acceptance reality.

There is no end to their neediness. They are crying out for some boundaries. It’s way past time to set them.