I quickly perused the thread because I'm curious what these conversations look among gay men and male-attracted trans men when I'm used to these convos among lesbians and trans women.

Oh boy. There was one thread in there between a trans man talking down to gay man who asked if anyone could explain what is wrong with "cis gay men" wanting to have their own spaces. He tried to get the trans man to concede that "cis gay men" and "trans gay men" have different life experiences and therefore that it isn't inherently hateful and should be understandable that at least sometimes they may want their own spaces. The trans man literally wouldn't concede there was anything different about the life experiences of a girl/woman who identifies as a gay man and a biological gay man. Then tells the gay man he's revealing his privilege. As it turns out this gay man is black so the privilege accusation is ironic, so trans man tells the gay man how he should feel as a black man and kept doubling down. I couldn't finish the thread because it is so, so cringy. Do they not hear themselves? They are so happy to claim the status of "most oppressed/marginalized" person and use that as both a sword to wave around and bully others into compliance and tell them how they should feel and a shield to protect themselves from criticism or feeling any sense of shame or responsibility for their actions.

Actually, I forgot the comment that made me post here in the first place. That trans man tried to guilt the gay black man by analogizing to establishments not allowing black people in historically. The trans man then says something to the effect that gay people created their own spaces because heterosexuals wouldn't let them in their spaces. That's all I needed to know that this idiot has no clue what it's like to be gay. Same-sex attracted people didn't create their own bars and organizations because they weren't allowed in heterosexual bars and organizations. We want our own bars because we want to be around people like ourselves. They're the only place where we can assume the other men/women around us are also same sex-attracted. Organizations formed around getting the same-sex attracted basic rights, rights that "gay" trans people did not lack. How can you be so ignorant and proud of it?