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[–]Movellon 73 insightful - 6 fun73 insightful - 5 fun74 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

They’re that far into the cult that they can’t even see that they’re the ones who are the bigots.

Be very sure that the reason why we were banned is because we know that sex is real, that sexual orientation is all about the sex binary, and that we refuse to lie to ourselves and other people about that.

Just make sure that you let anyone you see who is struggling to deal with what I now refer to as the Rainbow Reich know about us over here.

[–]zerosis 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I second this. There are so many people in our community struggling under these extremist views now, we need to let them know they're not alone.

[–]indeepshadowsBi woman 52 insightful - 2 fun52 insightful - 1 fun53 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

This was on r/askgaybros. The replies are definitely worth reading; it sounds like some of the lads are peaking.

[–]zerosis 29 insightful - 1 fun29 insightful - 0 fun30 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Fuck yeah. Trust me, if a guy like me can peak (top-tier SJW only a year ago), there are plenty more coming.

[–]notdelusionalbased faggot 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Top-tier SJW eh? Please tell us more.

[–]zerosis 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Basically just followed Contrapoints and the whole trans/sjw agenda, went around virtue signaling all the time because I thought it made me one of the 'enlightened guys.' God was I wrong. Just a bunch of puritanical shit masquerading as progressivism. My whole core philosophy is basically 'live and let live,' and SJW's have become the antithesis of that. Not what I signed up for at all.

[–]LiterallyawomanTERF IRL 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I can agree with this so much! My motto was always being equal in respect, and that died the day I called a non-binary male “dude”, apologized, and still got my head bit off for mislabeling him. A few years later I’m here!

[–]florasisHOMOSEXUAL FEMALE/Pussy is my God and I'm monotheist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So true, I've always being a liberal, a true one, who just really value individual freedom. Except the trans fanatics are against it, don't even respect the basic freedom of not dating a sex you're not attracted to. I'm leaning more and more right, and this ban from the left fascists, has only confirmed that modern left isn't liberal at all.

[–]notdelusionalbased faggot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's an insightful reply, thanks. Maturity sure is nice, isn't it?

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They cannot peak fast enough

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

they are next for the ban, that's why

[–]muhgurldick 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've seen some anti-trans sentiment on that sub before. IMO many, if not most gay men don't even bother with transmen. Like, I wouldn't say most gay men are active "terfs," but transmen literally don't ever cross most of their minds. They're basically non-existent, and IME transmen tend to hang out with """""""""queer"""""" guys who are edgy SJWs that hang out with the non-binary's 'n such. Like the purple haired crew. So many of us couldn't be friends with them, anyway, because we call each other "girl" and "woman" and use "she" to kind of poke fun at our feminine natures, and a transman obviously can't be around that.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 38 insightful - 3 fun38 insightful - 2 fun39 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

I quickly perused the thread because I'm curious what these conversations look among gay men and male-attracted trans men when I'm used to these convos among lesbians and trans women.

Oh boy. There was one thread in there between a trans man talking down to gay man who asked if anyone could explain what is wrong with "cis gay men" wanting to have their own spaces. He tried to get the trans man to concede that "cis gay men" and "trans gay men" have different life experiences and therefore that it isn't inherently hateful and should be understandable that at least sometimes they may want their own spaces. The trans man literally wouldn't concede there was anything different about the life experiences of a girl/woman who identifies as a gay man and a biological gay man. Then tells the gay man he's revealing his privilege. As it turns out this gay man is black so the privilege accusation is ironic, so trans man tells the gay man how he should feel as a black man and kept doubling down. I couldn't finish the thread because it is so, so cringy. Do they not hear themselves? They are so happy to claim the status of "most oppressed/marginalized" person and use that as both a sword to wave around and bully others into compliance and tell them how they should feel and a shield to protect themselves from criticism or feeling any sense of shame or responsibility for their actions.

Actually, I forgot the comment that made me post here in the first place. That trans man tried to guilt the gay black man by analogizing to establishments not allowing black people in historically. The trans man then says something to the effect that gay people created their own spaces because heterosexuals wouldn't let them in their spaces. That's all I needed to know that this idiot has no clue what it's like to be gay. Same-sex attracted people didn't create their own bars and organizations because they weren't allowed in heterosexual bars and organizations. We want our own bars because we want to be around people like ourselves. They're the only place where we can assume the other men/women around us are also same sex-attracted. Organizations formed around getting the same-sex attracted basic rights, rights that "gay" trans people did not lack. How can you be so ignorant and proud of it?

[–]notdelusionalbased faggot 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This all boils down to a conceptualization that there truly is no such distinction as male and female. Next question for critical theorists, is there no such distinction as white and black? Sometimes intersections are inconvenient.

[–]bellatrixbells 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I cannot wrap my head around the strength of that Kool-Aid. To be a woman, to have been a girl, told to shut up and get out of the way at all times when men wanted to get something. To be groomed into wearing unpractical clothes and then being made fun of when those clothes make you clumsy... To bear all the stress of having a godda... uterus and periods and still act like you've had the same experience as a man ?

Wtaf !

[–]Rosefield 30 insightful - 2 fun30 insightful - 1 fun31 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Trans exclusive indeed. Reddit reminds me of the UK labour party who got colonized by the gender cult. They lost tons of voters because of this. Then came the election 2019 and they were defeated. Now labour is done.

Reddit is going to suffer the same fate sooner or later and they deserve it.

[–]Yamyam 9 insightful - 8 fun9 insightful - 7 fun10 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

Reddit should be yeeted out of the internet.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, Reddit and any idiots who come here to do the same.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I hope reddit ends up banning more subreddits. I hope they go wild and end up banning so many things that everyone gets mad at them and demands change

[–]Femaleisnthateful 18 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I wonder if that person ever actually visited any of the subs they're raging about? I'm thinking no? I wouldn't consider any of them 'trans-exclusionary', either, they just didn't centre trans persons. Same thing to them, I guess.

[–]crypkidsformally 'rezkidsinlove' 15 insightful - 5 fun15 insightful - 4 fun16 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We were so used to oppression and intolerance, we welcomed them into LGB. They took it over and have worked hard to eradicate sexual orientation ever since. Their use of preference instead of our orientation, was one of their clever and gaslighting ways to erase us.

[–]julesburm1891 15 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

At the rate Reddit is going, all the lesbian subs are going to be a bunch of men with pink hair and all the gay subs are going to be a bunch of women with bowl cuts. When they realize that they’ve driven away all the actual gays and lesbians, their larping will be less “validating.”

[–]annatheginguh 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

“Join, or die,” but it’s way more fucked.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I wonder if that person ever actually visited any of the subs they're raging about? I'm thinking no? I wouldn't consider any of them 'trans-exclusionary', either, they just didn't centre trans persons. Same thing to them, I guess.

[–]Criticallacitirc 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

[–]jiljol 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'd rather confront my biases

Imagine being so deep in self-loathing and internalized homophobia that you call your sexual orientation a "bias".

This kind of ex-gay nonsense would make the NARTH Institute blush.

[–]VexbaneAramori 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

they cant even keep their own rhetoric in line. its fuckin hilarious.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[–]lavender_menace 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

what does “get bent” even mean, where does it come from? Just saw it in jkrowlings replies on twittler under the tweet about detransitioners. Roll over and just take it is politically incorrect? Because that is how it sounds.

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Basically to get bent:

Step 1 - have a penis

Step 2 - bend it or have someone bend it for you

Step 3 - experience intense penile pain

It might be from the 90's, or at least, it used to be popular then.

EDIT - hmm, Google is showing me it was used in a college setting in the 60's, and possibly had homophobic meanings too. (Bent = not straight.) It could also be related to "Don't get bent out of shape..." Fuck, now I'm over-thinking this...

[–][deleted] 21 insightful - 2 fun21 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Back in my day, it meant get fucked, as in bend over.

[–]les4leshomonormative 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Also an offensive way to describe gay men in Britain lmao

🤔

[–]Jamiethiel2018 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Bent has a much longer history. It's also the name of a play depicting two gay men in a Nazi concentration camp. It's a very moving play. Edit: spelling

[–]markiemarcus 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's funny, I just stumbled across the post and thought exactly the same thing. I've posted a somewhat lengthy response in the Reddit thread, copied below. The only advice I could give to the younger members here is stay strong and stand your ground; this conversation has gone mainstream and the majority of people are on your side. People are waking up to it; there's a lot of pushback in that thread alone.

From my Reddit post:

Educate myself? Good lord, the arrogance. Right up front, we do need spaces for “cis” gay, lesbian and bisexual people. Anybody denying provisions for that is either very young or has nefarious motives IMO. I consider your title more of a Freudian slip.

Some background…

I come from a small and moderately socially conservative, western country, a country that could be a lot worse, but still has one foot stuck in the past. I’ve been out for about 17 years now and around that time I fell madly in love with another guy. I consider myself very fortunate in that I had/have supportive parents, but my boyfriend sadly wasn’t so lucky. His parents were next-level homophobic, the kind that you read about in the news from the worst excesses of religious conservatism. Over a period of about 24 months, he was threatened with excommunication, castration, forced transition (the logic being that this would make him “straight”) etc. You get the picture. Rather than endure that, he moved in with me. The first 8 months were great, but beyond that, I could tell that the weight of excommunication was really starting to affect him.

We talked about it a lot, attended some support groups, anything and everything. Conversation would be continually dominated by the trans individuals there, each and every time. They never shut the fuck up, frankly. Too many voices, too many wildly different experiences for it to be constructive. You see, for my partner, transition was used a threat. It was completely inappropriate to be sharing an emotional space with people who intentionally do so.

Over the next few weeks he went into quick decline and ultimately, I would return from work one afternoon to find him hanging from a pull-up bar. To this day I still carry guilt about it and, in truth, I never really got over it. I loved him. My partner needed these spaces. My partner needed to know that his experience wasn’t unique. Would it have made a difference? Maybe, maybe not. Fundamentally, the blame lies with his parents, but the fact is that the support he needed became “unfashionable” around that time. He was sidelined. They were suddenly all LGB+T spaces, and it was all downhill from there IMO.

If you can’t understand why these spaces really ought to be separate, it’s because you lack the experience to know why. Anybody championing their mass culling ought to be ashamed of themselves. You have no idea what you’re doing, the damage you’re causing and, frankly, many of us “cis” people – a fatuous term but it serves a purpose here – are fucking sick of it. To now see us described as “genital fetishists” with disturbing frequency, is just the icing on the shit sundae being served.

You do you, let us do us. I’ll continue to support trans people however I can. I really will, just as I have done in the past. But I’ve gotta be honest with you, the path that you (and trans activism in general) are currently taking is nothing short of a betrayal...and it’s going to bite you in the ass, politically.

[–]Canardyyy 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They fight hate, they spread hate and they hate to hate those who don’t fit in with them.

[–]zerosis 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm honestly excited for the influx of gay men who will peak after being exposed to this shit. It's already happened with lesbians, more or less, but now that TRA's have started attacking gay guys, this homophobic movement is going to stutter, hopefully be stopped in it's tracks and re-evaluated for the regressive and rapey garbage that it is.

[–]gavgoh97 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

TRAs and trans-identified people have such a potent 'coloniser' mentality that it subconsciously seeps into their language. The fact that this person could ever unironically and 'accidentally' type out the term "trans-exclusive" confirms what we already know - when they started weasling their way into LGB spaces, they never wanted inclusivity, they wanted to take over our spaces, our domains, and start policing our language, our sexualities, and how we express ourselves and talk about our own orientations.

The recent wave of subreddit bans only made this trend even worse, now many LGB people (esp. LGB young people) have no choice but to enter LGBTQ+ spaces that are intensely-hostile to them and completely-dominated and controlled by increasingly-petty and authoritarian TQ+ activists.

[–]notdelusionalbased faggot 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"...please either educate yourselves, or leave"

Notice how they always use the term educate in place of indoctrinate. 🤔

[–]Yamyam 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Sounds like communism to me.

[–]BigMommyMilkersYes, they're real 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Why RightWingLGBT tho? There were quite a few trans users there.

[–]markiemarcus 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Because actually, this is all about politics IMO. Really, realllllllllly far left politics. I say this as moderate leftie; it's a shitshow.

[–]insta 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly. \r\rightwingLGBT definitely had some anti-trans stuff but it was by far anti-progressive. The whole "This is about transgenderism and hate" is just a mask.

[–]XirallicBolts 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Last I checked, their definition of "lesbian" is different from what 99% considers "lesbian".
Two people born with XY chromosomes, with penises, dating, is not lesbian just because the two of you are transwomen.

But that's not really the problem. The problem is when they get pissy about how 99%-accepted lesbian "erases" them.

[–]RippoffOfLoveSStraight | Overuses quotation marks 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"There are many different flavors of straight people that you must relinquish your control to."