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submitted by xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) from self.LGBDropTheT

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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Even when private, this sub has always been removed from s/all, as we do not allow disagreement with our overall stance (even when presented rationally). Reddit taught us an awful lot about astro-turfing, and how "well-reasoned debate" will quickly override and silence LGB voices.

We have this statement in the sidebar in order to comply with SaidIt policy:

Mods will remove opposing views, regardless of where on the PyramidOfDebate they may be. Violations may result in a permanent ban without notice.

Since you're an Admin, would you prefer we word the sidebar statement in a different way to be even more clear and/or precise? Admittedly, we shortened things up due to character limitations in the sidebar, but we will revisit and refine our wording if you feel it's needed.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Cool sounds good to me, that complies with the rules just fine. Thanks for letting me know.

[–]joogabahGay shows the way 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Disagreement provides the best opportunity to showcase one's perspective tho, and pick apart the other's argument. And perhaps it is just because I am an American, but the idea of banning for expressing an opinion feels evasive - like something someone would do if they couldn't defend their own conceptions. It implies a weakness in one's position; that it can't stand on its own. I think the trans ideology is so weak it has no argument. That's why they resort to these tactics, and it is so obvious they have to ratchet up the peer pressure and fear of ostracism to make any headway.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The problem, is they don't just respectfully disagree - they swarm, like a plague of locusts, and overrun subs with their ideology and circular reasoning. They call people names who disagree. More and more people see that, and start thinking it's OK to do it too, because the space allows it, right?

And that's how you end up with subs like LGBT, ActualLesbians, LesbianActually, etc etc. Where it's 90% pro-trans content, homosexuality is referred to as "genital preference", and actual LGB people are silenced and left wondering if they've swallowed crazy pills.

We're not letting DropTheT turn into that ... they couldn't tolerate it on Reddit and got us shut down. Hell, they even got the debate sub shut down, and that was moderated really well and encouraged all sides to pick apart each others arguments. Hopefully, the debate sub will spring back up here on SaidIt, and we can direct people there.

[–]joogabahGay shows the way 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Extraordinary measures to combat unreasonable behavior. I get it. Sad that it has to come to that. A semester in high school on civility and debate should be mandatory in the internet age.