Hello, I was banned from Reddit for saying that men cannot get pregnant on a thread about pregnancy tests so now I am here. Ideally, I am hoping this is a place that looks just like Reddit, but also allows you to state that men cannot get pregnant in an evidence-based, non-hateful manner.

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[–]Dontcaretoday 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Gotcha on the uterus transplant thing. I don't think it makes the argument any less valid that some natural born women have it done. They are still female, their bodies just aren't functioning as they should. Trans women not being able to bear children is the norm because male bodies were not made to do that and every single one would need to jump through hoops to make it happen. Basically one is restoring a natural function, the other would be making a body go through an unnatural function.

Situations where sex matters are things like sports, allowing traumatized women to have rape shelters and places like that that are female only, basically anything where the physical differences between trans women and female women become relevant. I don't think the bathroom issue is a much of a problem as people make it out to be, but in other situations like locker rooms where nudity is a thing the trans women should at least be passing and never let their penis show if they have one still. Its not unreasonable for women to be uncomfortable in a changing room around someone who is visibly male.

Letting trans women play with females is probably fine for lower level stuff, but if it is a contact sport or a situation where scholarships are at stake then it should be taken into consideration.

In some cases a teen could be truly transsexual, but the total explosion of trans identifying people suggests that social factors are at play also, and that a lot of people are self diagnosing as being trans when they do not actually have that particular disorder. Are they telling all these excess cases that they are probably not trans and encouraging them to find the other reasons they may be feeling that way? I could be wrong, but it seems like affirming is being encouraged over questioning

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Basically one is restoring a natural function, the other would be making a body go through an unnatural function.

Both required the transplant of a uterus. That's either natural or not.

Situations where sex matters are things like sports, allowing traumatized women to have rape shelters and places like that that are female only, basically anything where the physical differences between trans women and female women become relevant.

Yeah, okay.

I don't think the bathroom issue is a much of a problem as people make it out to be, but in other situations like locker rooms where nudity is a thing the trans women should at least be passing and never let their penis show if they have one still.

Yeah, okay.

In some cases a teen could be truly transsexual, but the total explosion of trans identifying people suggests that social factors are at play also

Or that these people would have suppressed and suffered in the past.

and that a lot of people are self diagnosing as being trans when they do not actually have that particular disorder.

You certainly have to be careful. But they appear to be managing that well.

Are they telling all these excess cases that they are probably not trans and encouraging them to find the other reasons they may be feeling that way?

I believe that they have to weed out most of them anyway. This is why puberty blockers are used, to give the patient more time.

I could be wrong, but it seems like affirming is being encouraged over questioning.

Part of the diagnosis is to see how they do if they dress and live as the other sex. So affirmation in that sense is encouraged. But a lot of care is taken before going on to hormonal treatment.

[–]Dontcaretoday 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Not sure if you're just trying to make me think again or something, but really if you can't comprehend how putting a uterus into a man is less natural than putting one into a female I don't know what else to tell you

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

but really if you can't comprehend how putting a uterus into a man is less natural than putting one into a female I don't know what else to tell you

It's the same operation. For the same reason. Unless you've got a particular hang up about the sex assigned at birth affecting "natualness" then they're equally natural.

[–]Dontcaretoday 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yes, I do believe that impregnating a male is significantly less natural than doing the same exact procedure to a female. It seems like we're just gonna have to agree to disagree on this one lol.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes, I do believe that impregnating a male is significantly less natural than doing the same exact procedure to a female.

I think you're straw manning a little bit to call uterus transplantation "impregnating".

And being assigned male at birth is different from being male. There's all sorts of medical conditions that could lead to that, some of which are quite closely related to some of the reasons why someone without female reproductive organs might be assigned female at birth.

[–]Dontcaretoday 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If you are performing a procedure that causes a person to become pregnant, impregnating seems appropriate enough. I'm not referring to fringe cases of people having intersex conditions, just a standard XX vs XY.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Having a uterus doesn't cause you to become pregnant.

Women (be they cis or trans) born without a uterus are edge cases.