Anti-woke leftist looking for a place with less brain-rot.

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[–]72ndGender 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

What's ironic, is I see this exactly the opposite way. I see the left as wanting unlimited power in the hands of the few (politicians, bankers, corporate rulers) while the right wants individual rights, along the lines of libertarian ideals. The left keeps demanding the population be forced into ways of life and to accept ever shrinking constitutional rights, while the right pushes back against this. First, second, fourteenth amendments especially. A little fifth amendment thrown in there. Fourth amendment is both sides though.

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    [–]bobbobbybob 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Ah, the 'never tried real socialism' argument.

    All left-wing ideologies require governments to heavily intervene in normal human interactions. This naturally and inevitably result in power concentration with the few.

    Animal Farm being a classic analysis.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    the culture war is the way they use to try to co-opt leftist stuff, isn't it.

    [–]72ndGender 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    You make a fair point. And it's also worth bringing up that modern political groups have strayed very far from their roots in the last 20 years. Just look at the difference between a liberal in 2000 and a "liberal" in 2020.

    [–]wecandobetter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    You are employing the 'no true Scotsman' fallacy of argument. Left and right are not static terms. They simply designate different polarizations of politics in various countries. For the purpose of discussing the US, conservatives vs anti-conservatives is the most accurate, as 'conservative' captures both the politics and the culture of the mainstream right - it seeks to preserve a status quo with an emphasis on traditional anglosaxon culture, religion, and individualism with minimal taxation and government services. What exactly the 'left' is in the US now I'm not sure even the 'left' knows entirely.

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      [–]wecandobetter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      You fans of socialism always move the goalposts when it's not going well. If that ain't a no true scotsman, I don't know what it.