If we lose the Internet Archive, we’re screwed

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[–]SoCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Archive.org occasionally removes content and manipulates it's history. Don't trust large media companies to not censor/manipulate/and control like all the other large media companies. Yet, it seems likely that government, even in free speech countries, have a hand on compelling this action.

You should help archive the internet personally. Just save pages and screenshots of pages, that you find interesting, useful, or important. Hard drive space is getting pretty cheap.

[–]sproketboy 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This is one of the sites that the RESTRICT act is actually targeting.

[–]LarrySwinger2 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Who archives the archives?

[–]package 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I'm all for preserving history and access to information, but this particular case was pretty blatantly indefensible legally. They were providing free, unrestricted access to books that, unlike their catalogue of films and other media, were currently being sold and not in the public domain or permissively licensed. The "library" analogy didn't work because there is no physical media changing hands and limiting who had access to the book at any particular time. There was no difference between what they were doing and what pirate sites do.

[–]JewsAreOfColor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good. Oligarchs do not deserve to profit off the labor of others.

[–]jamesK_3rd 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Physical media "changing hands" is some garbage idea some lawyer came up with. Many libraries have multiple copies of an item

Copyright law, like almost everything else is so corrupt and bureaucratic now, greed and payouts.

[–]package 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

... multiple copies are still a limit on the total number of people that can use the book at one time and ensure that the publisher has been paid for each copy in existence. Surely you see the difference between that and unlimited free copies? Imagine if when someone bought a car they could just snap their fingers and summon an identical one for free for anyone who asked.

[–]1Icemonkey 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe we’ll all go outside.

[–]BanditMcFuklebuck 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah i won't be able to watch Northern Exposure for free anymore and will have to resort to VHS tapes bought from e-bay but I ain't even like that show enough to go to all that trouble

[–]SMCAB 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

You should be printing massive amounts of instructions and important things from the internet. I have tons of large 3 ring binders with everything from gardening to engine repair to structural instructions. I mean why wouldn't you?

[–]jamesK_3rd 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Physical space. That is costly to store and to lug around.

Print out the things that need to be printed , use a backup system for the rest

[–]EmacsIsGood 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

So, if I have the timeline right: they did that wrong thingy with the books renting, got sued, stopped.

But they are still getting them to the courts. Do I have this correct?

Wiley is sort of a Monopoly, it spans everywhere. It closed the Russian offices some four months ago, not sure how they kept them going all that time. And they still have the power to bring even more Russians to Greece, somehow. I doubt E.U. gives visas to Russians, still.

Similar approach they might have towards ChatGPT and stuff, by the way, as "cheating", and nothing more. (Don't tell them developers, first and foremost, might use it.)

[–]cant_even 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Better start downloading/duplicating what matters to you and yours: Offline storage has never been cheaper. The "cloud" is a Government mouse-click away from the Memory-Hole.