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[–]proc0 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Nope. It's the demonization of this attitude, instead. It's labeled as toxic, and then many men grow confused and become increasingly unhappy as a direct result of this mixed communication.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The "toxic" label is a brainwashing piece of crap. It needs to go away.

[–]Censored_Scrotum 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The "Man Up" message was more prevalent in the past. It's gotten weaker in recent decades.

Children of WW2 vets got a lifetime earful of "Man Up" attitude, and their suicide rates were lower than todays.

I'm fairly certain that women attempt suicide more frequently than men; typically using less lethal methods.

Men attempt suicide less frequently, but typically with more lethal methods (guns).

Also, where's the supporting evidence in this article? This is a fluff piece.

[–]Oneda 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think it's just "man up", it's more about "Toughen Up". Doesn't matter what your gender is. A lot of people nowadays are just mentally and emotionally weak. They get hurt too easily and despair too fast.

Yes, it is important to toughen up. The world isn't a place where everyone will be nice to you just because you're nice to them. It's a world where good people get victimized often by the strong or the bully types. In order to not become a victim, you have to be able to stand up on your own and fight back when necessary. Of course, this doesn't mean that you're not allowed to find help. That's just ridiculous.

Another thing that doesn't help when it comes to suicide or depression is the inability of people to accept their failures or faults. Life isn't a fairy tale where if you work hard, you'll succeed. The only thing we're guaranteed in life is that we'll die someday. Don't let failures and your faults become things that you need to "correct" in your life. If no matter how many times you've tried, you still failed, then you have to let go. You have to give up and move on. There are things you cannot have in life and that's normal.