Three Studies Show Vaccinated Spread Measles

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[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Link to studies? Or am I going to have to spend >23 minutes hunting them down?

[–]hennaojisan[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Only if you want to.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

If they're long, then wizz won't read them.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

If a video is long, then I won't watch it. I read nearly everything put in front of me.

Just because I don't suddenly and drastically change my entire worldview to conform to how you want me to think, doesn't mean that I don't read it or take it into consideration.

Please stop personally attacking me out of the blue without including me into the conversation. I wouldn't have known about this comment if I hadn't come back to try to hunt down the three studies. In future, write something like:

If they're long, then /u/wizzwizz4 won't read them.

Otherwise, it's impolite.

[–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Tom thinks you're a shill because you argue things a lot, and not well nor as rationally as you think. Now he's stalking you.

IMHO You both need to chill the fuck out, find some respect for each other and the readers, and maybe stay clear of each other instead of engaging in incendiaries. This includes shutting down the fast and loose accusations and fast and loose perpetually argumentative rambling circular logic philosophizing on refutation processes, rather than just researching it for yourself and bringing real substance to the table to discuss, pro or con.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

and not well nor as rationally as you think

Yeah, I've been beginning to notice this. Dunning–Kruger FTW! (stupid cognitive biases)

  • I must not argue with people about things that I know next to nothing about; and
  • If I can make an argument without properly researching the topic, it's neither novel nor useful.

Thanks for being blunt and pointing this out to me.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I must not argue with people about things that I know next to nothing about; and

If I can make an argument without properly researching the topic, it's neither novel nor useful.

It suddenly occurs to me that it's how, not what, that's the problem.

You seek answers. Yet you attack their premise. Maybe you could ask the person.

"Why do you believe this thing [that I'm unfamiliar with and don't yet agree or disagree with but I'm not going to mention that because it's hostile and alienating] ?"

You attack with skepticism rather than inquisitiveness, even if asking a question it may seem hostile.

I'm the last one who should talk about brevity, but it helps too. I tend to talk to much to not leave room for confusion. You tend to work things out on the page and it's often difficult to follow. I find explaining difficult things often helps me understand it better too. But when it comes to confrontational skepticism - best keep it to a minimum.

Thanks for being blunt and pointing this out to me.

I hope you'll call me on my shit too. Keep it real. You could be, but I have no reason to think you're a schill. I think you're just a real person. If you happen to be a bot you're the best one I've come across (that I know of).

[–]wizzwizz4 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It suddenly occurs to me that it's how, not what, that's the problem.

You're one of the nicest people here. Thank you!

If you happen to be a bot you're the best one I've come across (that I know of).

Good bots are too hard to make (the AI scare is waaay overhyped); most shills are minimum-wage people following scripts.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Don't go overboard on the niceness already. That kinda shit is addictive and will go straight to my head. DMT trip is one thing, but and ego trip is altogether another thing.

I agree and disagree with the A.I. threat. I don't think we can even really comprehend what it will be like - both with our limited interactions, and in the vast scope of it's inner workings and planetary scale. And then of course - who runs it. Open source will always be several steps behind because "they" will have the open source stuff instantly - as well as their own proprietary shit. That's not even counting the deeply entrenched evil corporatocracy that is running things and will run all the A.I. unless there's a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE and sudden open/transparent/fair paradigm shift. I don't pray but if I did that'd be the only thing I'd pray for. All I see is perpetual war until the "great A.I. awakening of 2045-2050".

And most shills have no nuance or any relatablility. It's an unimaginative pejorative without nuance IMHO.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's obvious that you're not interested in the facts.