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[–]HOWABOUTNO 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

I have read CAIS individuals do not have ovaries: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_androgen_insensitivity_syndrome#Physical

The gonads in these women are not ovaries, but instead, are testes; during the embryonic stage of development, testes form in an androgen-independent process that occurs due to the influence of the SRY gene on the Y chromosome.

Immature sperm cells in the testes do not mature past an early stage, as sensitivity to androgens is required in order for spermatogenesis to complete

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/androgen-insensitivity-syndrome/symptoms/

Girls with CAIS do not have a womb or ovaries

If CAIS individuals do not have ovaries, and have testes or penises instead, as said above, they are not girls, women, or female. They are boys, men or male.

They happen to "pass as" women on the outside. But they are not female.

[–]lefterfield 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They are genetically male, correct. If they have penises, they are 100% male, and I don't think that's even CAIS any longer.

Them not having ovaries is irrelevant. How they should be accepted socially should be based on the degree to which they resemble women, externally. If a particular individual would rather be known as male despite having some form of vagina(usually shallow or disconnected) I don't care, that's his problem. It's women's spaces that need to be kept free of men with penises or the clear appearance of being men. Really, it comes down to how a doctor 'identified(accurate in these cases)' them at birth. That is their sex, for all practical purposes.

Why are you arguing about these trivial edge cases? This has nothing to do with transgenderism.