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[–]WildApples 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You are not really making a good-faith effort to engage. You completely twisted and created a strawman out of her very clear explanation of the fundamental difference we have with you about the concept of gender. You cannot browbeat us into accepting your conception of gender.

I am very curious as to why you think we should see trans-identifying men as allies. You do not share our experiences or problems, your interests often conflict with ours, and you yourself are demonstrating here a disinclination to empathize with us, instead talking down to us in a way that could be deemed "mansplaining." What do we get from seeing you as allies other than having males demanding that we subordinate ourselves and center our worldviews and expression around them? How would accepting you as allies help us women?