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[–][deleted] 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

When it became 'empowering' to be a prostitute.

Prostitution is not illegal in my country, is not a recognized job either but you can't be arrested for engaging in it. So it's very easy to spot these women.

My parents used to sell clothes, handmade and cheap, so because of the quality plus accessible price, most of their clients were prostitutes. My parents always told me the stories, they were really sympathetic to these women and very critical of the johns. I guess because of this I was always very critical of sex work, never saw it as anything but exploitation of women's bodies.

My parents were also always critical of porn, which I only had contact when I was over 18.

When feminism started to be "sex positive" as in claiming sex work and porn is something good for women, I noped so hard.

Also male feminists. I remember when I wasn't feminist, 'feminazi' was the word thrown around, I wanted nothing to do with that. Around the same time there was a surge of male feminists.

I had a male feminist friend, he was way too aggressive about his beliefs. I was a stupid teenager, I was against abortion because my family was, so when the subject came up, I told him cus we were friends, right? Wrong, that's not what he wanted to hear. He verbally attacked me for being [insert many insults relating to intelligence] bonus insult: conservative and prude. Then he flooded me with info on why should I change my mind. I changed it.. eventually, but not thanks to his 'help'.

Most of his "info" were not good at all and never focused on women, just the hypothetical baby having a bad life being unloved and living in a foster home, which I assumed came from something unresolved between him and his mother. I swear, this guy hated his mom for no reason.

One of the images he send me to illustrate his point on why abortion should be legal and accepted was a image of a chicken egg on a frying pan. That was the most stupid argument I've ever heard about it and sometimes I remember it randomly and I just have a good laugh.

I think he never truly believed any of that, he just wanted to be seen as 'not like the other guys'. Most of the things he used to say felt condescending, envious and hateful hiding under the guise of social justice.

TL;DR: sex work being empowering; male feminists with their male feminism.

[–]JustWhy[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I love your story. When would you say there was this rise of "male feminists" that you are describing, and the sex work "empowerment"? I'm trying to pin down when exactly when the mainstream feminist narrative started to change like this. I was never as deep into feminism until the last 2-3 years when I finally snapped thanks to TRAs.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I would say around 2007-2010. I can't recall very well the dates, I feel that everything changed so fast around this time. Transgenderism was also getting less obscure during that time, at least around where I live, people knew what transgender was, though here it was 'transexual', then later it changed to transgender, always following english speaking countries change of terms.

Had my male feminist friend lecture me about not using the term 'ftm' anymore cus the acceptable now was 'trans man'. 'ftm' was out of date.. all that while I identified as trans lmao, blink-and-you-miss-it.

After that, feminism was all about men, sex positiveness and LGBT also changed, becoming LGBTTT (transexuals, transvestites and transgender.. as if they're not the exact same thing) then LGBTI then LGBTQIA+ and I don't understand the addition of IA to this day but what bugs me out the most is the Q which makes no sense in my native language (portuguese) and has no history here.

Around 2014-2016 (I guess?) the only changes I saw my friend be opposed was the people (americans I think?) claiming the word homosexual was bad. I don't know how loaded that word is in english speaking countries, but here is best word to address same sex attracted people, it is polite even; and the 'genital preferences are transphobic' instance, since he was a gay man.

(Sorry if thats way too long, I'm remembering a lot of stuff now and holy cow, I don't miss that time)